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#1 OFFLINE   newbe

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Posted Feb. 11 2013 - 04:09 AM

Scoured the I-net, but didn't find any real conclusive data on the Hornady 75 gr BTHP bullets.

 

Looking for loads using IMR 8208 XBR, and Varget powders.  I made up some loads based on reviews from the net, but couldn't find any published data.

 

Any help greatly appreciated. :thumb:




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Posted Feb. 11 2013 - 10:53 AM

Use the 77 Sierra data for a start. Or, gasp,  even maybe SANTA can help. He brought me the Hornady book!! LOL

 

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Posted Feb. 11 2013 - 05:29 PM

I am starting at 22.5 grains of Varget and going to 25.0, which my Lyman manual indicates is a compressed maximum load. The Hodgdon page when the 75g weight is selected lists exactly the same.

http://data.hodgdon....tridge_load.asp




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Posted Feb. 11 2013 - 05:40 PM

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Posted Feb. 14 2013 - 05:52 AM

I am starting at 22.5 grains of Varget and going to 25.0, which my Lyman manual indicates is a compressed maximum load. The Hodgdon page when the 75g weight is selected lists exactly the same.

http://data.hodgdon....tridge_load.asp

Thanks brother.  Looked there first, but that bullet is the 75 GR. JLK VLD, not the Hornady BTHP.  I searched online on different forums and went with a max load of 24.3 gr of Varget which netted me a group size of .869" @ 100 yds.  Not impressive to me since these are supposedly match grade bullets (got a LOT better with the Sierra 69 and 77 gr pills).  I'll have to bump up the charge and see if the groups start to shrink.  I was watching the primers to see if there was getting to be too much pressure building up.  It was getting up there, but I don't think I was maxed out.  The results with the 8208 XBR were less stellar.

 


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Posted Feb. 14 2013 - 05:54 AM

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Posted Feb. 16 2013 - 12:46 AM

Newbe,

 

I had similar results with hornady 75gr and Varget. Most of my groups were just under .9"@100 with 23.9, 24.2, 24.5gr of Varget. My best group was .52" at 23.6gr w/avg 2517ft/s.  I haven't had a chance to test these groups a second time since last summer.  Been busy in the middle of a move and all my shooting gear is packed up and in storage. I think I may try some CFE223 if I can't get the results I want from Varget.  The problem will be getting components to develop good ammo now...

 

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Posted Feb. 17 2013 - 04:34 AM

Newbe,

 

I had similar results with hornady 75gr and Varget. Most of my groups were just under .9"@100 with 23.9, 24.2, 24.5gr of Varget. My best group was .52" at 23.6gr w/avg 2517ft/s.  I haven't had a chance to test these groups a second time since last summer.  Been busy in the middle of a move and all my shooting gear is packed up and in storage. I think I may try some CFE223 if I can't get the results I want from Varget.  The problem will be getting components to develop good ammo now...

 

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Good to know it's not just me then.

What rifle/twist were you shooting?




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Posted Feb. 18 2013 - 07:55 AM

I get great results with 24 grains of Varget pushing them. I found a great load with 8208 right before this white shat came along, but off the too of my head I can't remember the charge.

They are my preferred bullet out of my rifle.

If you want a pic of the page in the Hornady manual shoot me a PM with your email address.


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Posted Feb. 18 2013 - 11:41 AM

Good to know it's not just me then.

What rifle/twist were you shooting?

Built my own with the same barrel you're using, 16" BHW 1:8 3 groove poly... Maybe it was just my shooting! I only had a 4-12x scope on the rifle for load development, but it should be plenty for 100yds. By the way those velocities are from last summer in NC so the temp was at least 80 deg.

 

Forgot to mention I was able to get .76" group with Hornady factory 75gr HPBT ammo. Was a little frustrating not being able to consistently beat it. I didn't get to shoot it through the chrony the day I shot the ammo. I'll have to try this whole test again hovering around 24gr Varget when I get a chance. If I can find out the velocity of the factory ammo, I assume I'll be able to get close to the same performance out of my handloads. It'll be a while before I get to the range, but I'll let you know what I find out when I do.

 

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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 09:59 PM

Just found this thread. Gonna start loading up some 75 gr hornadys with 8208xbr this weekend.

Anyone else have any starting info for me?


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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:02 PM

Just found this thread. Gonna start loading up some 75 gr hornadys with 8208xbr this weekend.

Anyone else have any starting info for me?

Unless you already have the bullets in hand, I'd go with Sierra Match Kings or Noslers Custom Competition bullets.

 

The 75gr Hornady's don't seem to have that great of luck in the BHW 1:8 twist poly barrels from what I've gathered.




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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:08 PM

Unless you already have the bullets in hand, I'd go with Sierra Match Kings or Noslers Custom Competition bullets.
 
The 75gr Hornady's don't seem to have that great of luck in the BHW 1:8 twist poly barrels from what I've gathered.

Oh ye of little faith. Wait one......

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Edited by GLShooter, Oct. 03 2013 - 10:09 PM.



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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:10 PM

Oh ye of little faith. Wait one......

Greg

I'm all for learning Greg.  If you've got some info throw it out there. :scotto:

 

This is based on my two BHW barrels (16" and 18", and Raygun's BHW barrel as well). :beeler:


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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:13 PM

I'm all for learning Greg.  If you've got some info throw it out there. :scotto:
 
This is based on my two BHW barrels (16" and 18", and Red's BHW barrel as well). :beeler:


Mine is a WOA and since I changed the muzzle brake they have done better but still not as good as Sierrias or even better Noslers.


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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:14 PM

Mine is a WOA and since I changed the muzzle brake they have done better but still not as good as Sierrias or even better Noslers.

Changed the original post to reflect Raygun's data.

 

I see though that you have not had as good of luck with the Hornady's either.




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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:16 PM

Changed the original post to reflect Raygun's data.
 
I see though that you have not had as good of luck with the Hornady's either.

Nope, not with the BTHP. I get better from their 55gr BTSPs.


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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:18 PM

Use the 77 Sierra data for a start. Or, gasp,  even maybe SANTA can help. He brought me the Hornady book!! LOL
 
Greg


Wonder if Santa would mind you sharing the info I need???


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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:23 PM

Unless you already have the bullets in hand, I'd go with Sierra Match Kings or Noslers Custom Competition bullets.
 
The 75gr Hornady's don't seem to have that great of luck in the BHW 1:8 twist poly barrels from what I've gathered.


Already in hand. Only thing in stock.
Wondering about the hodgen website info.
They list a 75gr JLK VLD from 20.0 to 22.7
But the list a 77gr sierra hpbt from 20.5 to 23.2

I though heavier bullets used less powder, not more????

Which one of these would be a better starting point?


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Posted Oct. 03 2013 - 10:39 PM

Wonder if Santa would mind you sharing the info I need???


I will scan it tomorrow.

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