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#1 OFFLINE   thenewguy

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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 12:54 AM

I am not sure if this is the correct forum to post this question.

 

I have an M&P 10 and am looking at getting a scope on it. After looking through the online stuff two basic versions fixed or variable scope. 

 

Now, why would one get a fixed scope vs variable scope? I am planning to use the rifle for target and hunting. 

 

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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 01:01 AM

Fixed or variable is a good question. 

 

A variable scope makes the rifle scope combination more versatile.

 

It all depends what you expect it to do, within reason. At low power you get good field of view and at high power the opportunity for more precision. 

 

The majority of magnified optics sold these days are variable power.




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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 02:25 AM

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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 02:40 AM

It depends on the distance you plan to shoot....




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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 09:47 AM

Thanks guys appreciate it a lot. 




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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 10:17 AM

If you are not planning on shooting long range, I would go with a 1x4 or 2x7. You can still variably magnify for longer shots, or you can leave it on a low power for close/mid range shooting.




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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 11:36 AM

I have never owned a scope that I didn't run at max power 90%+ of the time. It is nice however on a hunting gun to be able to back it down if necessary.


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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 11:58 AM

I have never owned a scope that I didn't run at max power 90%+ of the time. It is nice however on a hunting gun to be able to back it down if necessary.

When you get your 20p going you will want something that will back off to at least 6x.............half the fun is being able to watch the body parts fly as far as you can  :laugh:


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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 12:33 PM

Start the video at 2:05:

 

That is a great video and excellent series! 

 

I highly recommend those videos to ANYONE who might be interested in long range shooting and accuracy.  :thumb:


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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 12:36 PM

My brother recently acquired a DPMS G2 RECON and put a VORTEX Strike Eagle 1-6x24 in a American Defense 30mm RECON-X mount. He loves it. I think that any 1-6x24 scope is a good compromise between a fixed magnification red-dot and a higher magnification variable scope and would suit your purpose.


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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 12:47 PM

In the shooting world what is considered close range, mid range and long range?

 

I had a Nikon 3.5x14x40 that I have on hold. Maybe I should reconsider that and stick with a fixed scope.

 

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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 12:51 PM

In the shooting world what is considered close range, mid range and long range?
 
I had a Nikon 3.5x14x40 that I have on hold. Maybe I should reconsider that and stick with a fixed scope.
 
There is so much to learn. WOW!! But it is a good thing. 

Depends on what you're shooting at, and the skill of the shooter. Lol

The fixed power can also be a good choice depending on the range and size of target.

The SWFA SS fixed 10X is a great scope and inexpensive too if you decide to go that route.


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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 12:51 PM

My brother recently acquired a DPMS G2 RECON and put a VORTEX Strike Eagle 1-6x24 in a American Defense 30mm RECON-X mount. He loves it. I think that any 1-6x24 scope is a good compromise between a fixed magnification red-dot and a higher magnification variable scope and would suit your purpose.

 

I concur. Using the SWFA SS HD 1-6x24 on the M1A, and I love it. If I were using it on a lighter platform, then the 1x would really shine for anything within 100yd. for faster transitioning between targets. However, my purpose was more mid-range (800yd. max). Minute of man I should add.


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Posted Jan. 06 2017 - 02:18 PM

In the shooting world what is considered close range, mid range and long range?

 

I had a Nikon 3.5x14x40 that I have on hold. Maybe I should reconsider that and stick with a fixed scope.

 

There is so much to learn. WOW!! But it is a good thing. 

 

To me, it would be as follows:

 

Close range - 100 yards or less

Medium range - 100 - 500 yards

Long range - 500+ yards

 

I use a fixed magnification red-dot out to 100 yards. I can use it out to around 200 yards, but that is about the limit due to eyesight and age. Generally, I like a 1-4x24 or 1-6x24 scope for anything from 100 - 300 yards. For anything past that, I have to use a high magnification scope such as a 3.5-10x40mm and a 4.5-14x50mm. Both of these scopes are on precision ARs (Mk12 Mod 0 and a Mk11 Mod 0, respectively).


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Posted Jan. 07 2017 - 12:01 AM

My brother recently acquired a DPMS G2 RECON and put a VORTEX Strike Eagle 1-6x24 in a American Defense 30mm RECON-X mount. He loves it. I think that any 1-6x24 scope is a good compromise between a fixed magnification red-dot and a higher magnification variable scope and would suit your purpose.

1-6x24 is about near perfect for the vast majority of shooters (imo).


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Posted Jan. 07 2017 - 04:41 PM

For mid range I have a Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24 on the 17S,my LR308 I have a Millett 1-6x24 and then I have a Nikon 1-4x24 BDC on a Windham 5.56,I only use them out to 300yards because that's the longest shot at our range but I'm sure all three could get me out to 500 with practice,my 6.5 Creedmoor has a whole different scope on it for long range,I also use a couple RDS's on a couple other AR's for CQ.
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Posted Jan. 11 2017 - 11:36 AM

On my LAR-8 308 i have a Simons Atec 2.8x10. My 6.8 SPC  has a Leupold 3.5x10. I use them to hunt so i like the variable scopes.  







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