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Posted Apr. 21 2017 - 12:12 AM

No link, no news story. Got the email today. Required to go watch some video on Youtube about how. It to hurt the feelings of the mentality insane that can't figure out if they are a boy or a girl.


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Posted Apr. 21 2017 - 12:21 AM

Glad I am retired......


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Posted Apr. 21 2017 - 01:38 AM

It should be a short class.

 

"Enemy combatants who identify as transgendered or differently-gendered die when you shoot them, just like everyone else. Class dismissed."


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Posted Apr. 21 2017 - 02:34 AM

Some new syndicated radio talk show guy (who replaced Herman Cain) in the AM quoted a sex shrink that said 

most transgender cases he sees are children or pre-teens who have figured out questioning your gender is a great way to get 

attention from their snowflake parents, and as soon as they hit puberty, the gender confusion magically disappeared in almost every case. 

 

The unintended harm comes when the child has parents who think to have a transgender child would improve their social standing

within their liberal snowflake subculture. The parents find a snowflake doctor who is willing to inject their "confused" attention seeking child with all sorts

of nasty hormones and such. Before the poor kid knows it permanent damage can be done. Then the child is truly effed, by either sex, I guess. But snowflake mommy and daddy are happy to show off their new liberal status symbol.

 

This doctor said that the sexual dimorphism (I think that's the word) is so rare as to be statistically zero. The doc

said what we are witnessing is a social phenomenon caused by the exaggerated celebration of the LGBT community 

combined with young people with great or small emotional problems seeking attention.

 

It made perfect sense to me. I will try to track down a link.

 

NOTE: People who know me know I don't give a damn what consenting adults do in their bedrooms behind closed doors. 

I do have a problem with homosexual activists who attempt to change our society and label those who don't want this stuff plastered everywhere

and served up as normal in our public schools as bigots. Sexual behavior is not a constitutional right, and the way you practice sex does not make you a protected minority...

 

And I DO have a huge problem with any human with male parts using a woman's bathroom or locker room.

If I find a "gender confused" man in the bathroom with my grandaughters, he is going to have more problems than confusion, but I will save him some money on surgery costs, although the blood loss may be greater

in the bathroom with a Gerber than in an operating room with a scalpel...

 

I'll have an order of common sense with those prairie oysters, young "lady" !


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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 12:43 AM

I was reading an article that says you could wake up and your gender could change on a daily basis..... :lol:




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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 08:34 AM

I thought Trump was (is) weeding the social engineers out of the military? How damn deep did Obama implant this cancer into the services?


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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 08:35 AM

I thought Trump was (is) weeding the social engineers out of the military? How damn deep did Obama implant this cancer into the services?


Pretty damn deep. O cleaned out a lot of the top old schoolers.


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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 08:38 AM

Results are in....science declared there are only two genders
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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 09:09 AM

Pretty damn deep. O cleaned out a lot of the top old schoolers.


I wonder if they could be enticed into coming home for the good of the Country?


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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 09:16 AM

I wonder if they could be enticed into coming home for the good of the Country?


Just MHO but Trump, needs to do the same thing. He has enough good former senior military leadership on staff to make some good choices for promotion into newly vacant positions.


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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 10:31 AM

Results are in....science declared there are only two genders

That science doesn't count anymore


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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 05:22 PM

Just spent a couple of hours with one of my guys that just got back from his primary NCO leadership course yesterday and OMG!!.

I guess they had several in his class and a couple actually in his platoon. Of course he was the oldest one there and by virtue of date of rank they put him in charge of these snowflakes. Appearently now the "catch phrase of the day" is "trigger". You cant say offend, insult, or even made uncomfortable, you have to say trigger.

So there were like 18 out of 130-140 students. All but one were females wanting to become males. All had to be put in "special" barracks because you cant room room them with the females because they think they are male and yet you cant room them with males because they aren't. Some had already had some surgery, seems they figured out how to fraud the insurance company into paying for it by getting a doctor to claim "breast cancer" on the paperwork then they get a referral to a doctor that will actually cut off perfectly good body parts not knowing he is being lied to.

Well they are not yet in the "protected" class so there were several heated discussions about the situation. It would seem the driving force behind most of the women doing this was to get into a combat arms MOS for rapid promotion. One of the instructors happened to be artillery and part of a Pallidin crew. He asks the student how she would perform the job? Her answer was that she could drive. She doesn't have the physical strength or pull the trigger cord or to load the gun, "So of a crew of 3 one gets injured and now there is a gun down in the middle of a fire mission because you cant do anything else other than drive?" That went over like a fart in church. One, who IDs as a male got sent home because she couldn't meet the PT standards of a female and did nothing but cry because she missed the run by 1 second. "It's not fair, you are doing this because I am transgender". It's a go-nogo event, either you pass or you dont.

The best one though he told me was this one real macho dyke girl. Had a crew cut and everything. She was called out by the senior NCO for her hair cut. She mouthed off the appropriate regulation and his replay was "those are the male haircut standards". Right away she barked "I ID as a male so I am allowed to follow those standards". His replay "this morning at the PT test you IDed as a female, you cant be both at the same time so you have lied to the instructors, either now or this morning! You are going home on an honor violation." :lol: Wanna see a military career go down in flames, get sent home from a school on a honor violation.

It would also seem that going through the process and having the military pay for it gets you stripped of your security clearance. No clearence, no getting into certain jobs, no promotions past a certain point and in some services no reenlisting.
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Posted Apr. 23 2017 - 05:50 PM

Sexual behavior is not a constitutional right

Based on the 9th amendment, which acknowledges that "the people" have rights not enumerated within the constitution, I'm not sure that this is the right way of looking at things. However, I fully agree (as does surely everyone here) that there are sexual offenses which are not and cannot be protected by the constitution.

 

So you're correct and I agree with you, but I'm not sure to what extent you're correct and I agree with you? I guess I'm still sorting out my thoughts on this one. The rest of your post is great.

 

 

Apparently now the "catch phrase of the day" is "trigger". You cant say offend, insult, or even made uncomfortable, you have to say trigger.

That's interesting. I would have assumed the opposite is true, 'cuz normally when someone is said to be "triggered" it's a way of mocking them, like calling them a special snowflake.




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Posted Apr. 24 2017 - 12:04 AM

Based on the 9th amendment, which acknowledges that "the people" have rights not enumerated within the constitution, I'm not sure that this is the right way of looking at things. However, I fully agree (as does surely everyone here) that there are sexual offenses which are not and cannot be protected by the constitution.

 

So you're correct and I agree with you, but I'm not sure to what extent you're correct and I agree with you? I guess I'm still sorting out my thoughts on this one. The rest of your post is great.

 

 

 

 

In your self-deliberations on the 9th amendment, I would suggest going back to original intent. 




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Posted Apr. 24 2017 - 12:06 AM

There has to be some kind of standard in place to ensure uniformity for everyone and not changing things to suit you on a whim or to take advantage of the situation. If she identified as a female on the APFT then she can't claim to identify as a male to take advantages of grooming standards. Being in a combat Arms Mos doesn't get you promoted any faster as you still have to meet Time In Service and Time in Grade Requirements like everyone else.  The only exceptions I know of are for Rangers and Special Forces once they graduate from those schools and are fully qualified can be advanced.

 

Sexual behavior is not a Constitutional Right. Please grab a copy of the Constitution or Bill of Rights and find that for me because I can't.  There can be no discrimination because of your sex or sexual preference in the military.  The military has established standards for Soldiers for each Military Occupational Standard in the Army. It is commonly called the MOS Smart Book.   It has physical standards for each MOS that a Soldier must meet before going to that school. i.e. must have normal color vision, must be able to lift 150 lbs as part of a two person team or must be able to lift 75 lbs as a one person list. You must also have certain scores on the ASVAB to attend schools to get the MOS. I also reviewed the individuals medical records for any disqualification.   So if a person told me they wanted to go to cannon crewmwmbwe school and it said they must lift x number of pounds that individual would have to go out back and lift the weight to meet the qualifications. It is your job as a training person to ensure the individual meats the physical and mental requirement to attend that school.  I once had an e-mail from a higher level Command Sergeant Major that instructed me to enroll certain individuals to go to Airborne School.  I had to look up the standards for enrolling and mail them back to the CSM the CSM was angry nine ways from Sunday and told me to enroll them anyway. My answer was no. Some of the individual I knew could have passed but rules are rules. My identifier for the Training Reservation System shows who puts in that application.  I told the CSM that if she provided me with documentation of the Airborne APFT and they passed we woould be good o go. When A soldier applies for a school I always start a folder with a printout from the Reg on the requirments for the school and he also signs a contract with me and his first line leader that he meets these. This is for when a Soldier gets all butt hurt that I said no and a higher level Commander or CSM comes in trying to rip me a new one I ask him to hold on a minute and get his e-mail and I send him a digital copy of the paperwork that shows were the Soldier is deficient in meeting the standards.  As usual then they say I will have his first line leader counsel him on his shortcomings. After a while of this when a Soldier would file a complaint against those higher level commanders and NCOs wouldn't even call me because they knew that I was right....lol.   If I was still in I wouldn't be bothered by all this sexual preference stuff as long as you follow the standards for each Soldier they may not like it and even file a complaint. As an IG Full Bird Colonel asked me once after interviewing me for a complaint against me...  Is the Soldier deaf or just stupid.   :bellylaf:  Sent him my magic file and never heard squat about it.   The Soldier had a different attitude the next time he approached me about his problem. I have talked to a lot of Soldiers over the years and usually when they start whining about it being unfair or they are being discriminated against we have the talk.  I ask them if they want to know who is keeping them back they always say yes and I tell them go to the mirror and look in it.   As long as the standards are there and you enforce them equally they can file the complaints all day long go and cry to their superiors to get them to try and force me to do something against the standards and reg and try to pull rank they failed miserably.  I made some enemies of them but I also had some folks that knew me as a straight up guy. Follow the standards and the regs and when some of these Soldiers file BS against you it will roll right off because when they ask around other folks it won't take them long to smell the BS plus the Soldiers know that homie don't play no games like that. So don't be afraid of all this sexual preference stuff.




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Posted Apr. 24 2017 - 12:19 AM

This is a page right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

 

It is up to the The People with some common sense 

to let everyone in Government, including the Military, know we have their backs if they are against

this madness, and tell those who do support it that we will work to get them out of office. 

 

Those in power are waiting for us to lead the way.

Rinos need to be persuaded to have a "come to Jesus" moment or get voted out of office.  

This revolution is from the ground up.

 

IMO, conservatives are being out worked by less numerous but much better organized and funded groups of liberal/socialist activists.


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Posted Apr. 24 2017 - 09:08 AM

In my day, it was "Race Relations" which was a waste of time.  Now consider this a moment, in those days using racial slurrs was a way of life in the Army.  Everybody was called something derogatory not to even mention your wife screwing Jody.  What you have today is where that slippery slope landed.  Now that said, there were folks of every race, creed, or religion around us all the time.  With this, you all are going to be "In case you might maybe will be". 

 

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Posted Apr. 28 2017 - 02:52 PM

Just spent a couple of hours with one of my guys that just got back from his primary NCO leadership course yesterday and OMG!!.

I guess they had several in his class and a couple actually in his platoon. Of course he was the oldest one there and by virtue of date of rank they put him in charge of these snowflakes. Appearently now the "catch phrase of the day" is "trigger". You cant say offend, insult, or even made uncomfortable, you have to say trigger.

So there were like 18 out of 130-140 students. All but one were females wanting to become males. All had to be put in "special" barracks because you cant room room them with the females because they think they are male and yet you cant room them with males because they aren't. Some had already had some surgery, seems they figured out how to fraud the insurance company into paying for it by getting a doctor to claim "breast cancer" on the paperwork then they get a referral to a doctor that will actually cut off perfectly good body parts not knowing he is being lied to.

Well they are not yet in the "protected" class so there were several heated discussions about the situation. It would seem the driving force behind most of the women doing this was to get into a combat arms MOS for rapid promotion. One of the instructors happened to be artillery and part of a Pallidin crew. He asks the student how she would perform the job? Her answer was that she could drive. She doesn't have the physical strength or pull the trigger cord or to load the gun, "So of a crew of 3 one gets injured and now there is a gun down in the middle of a fire mission because you cant do anything else other than drive?" That went over like a fart in church. One, who IDs as a male got sent home because she couldn't meet the PT standards of a female and did nothing but cry because she missed the run by 1 second. "It's not fair, you are doing this because I am transgender". It's a go-nogo event, either you pass or you dont.

The best one though he told me was this one real macho dyke girl. Had a crew cut and everything. She was called out by the senior NCO for her hair cut. She mouthed off the appropriate regulation and his replay was "those are the male haircut standards". Right away she barked "I ID as a male so I am allowed to follow those standards". His replay "this morning at the PT test you IDed as a female, you cant be both at the same time so you have lied to the instructors, either now or this morning! You are going home on an honor violation." :lol: Wanna see a military career go down in flames, get sent home from a school on a honor violation.

It would also seem that going through the process and having the military pay for it gets you stripped of your security clearance. No clearence, no getting into certain jobs, no promotions past a certain point and in some services no reenlisting.

OMG, that's golden! I love it. I'm just glad I'm getting out. Never thought I would say that, but I am. Half because I can't stay infantry and airborne, the other half because freak this PC, snowflake bullshat. 




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