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#1 OFFLINE   schneider.223

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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 10:24 PM

OK OK i know im new and sucking all of the info i can out of you guys but before i dive into something i like to be informed and since you are the best the most exspeirenced and the most understanding i turn to you. I have asked about multiple guns but now i found out about a great deal at my local gander mountain. It is a Bushmaster CAR. its $599 on black friday its a good deal for an AR i know but is The carbon fiber reliable and is the bushmaster reliable IDK it sounds like a cheaper model what are your opinions all i hear is negative around here but after being on this website i have learned not to trust a localized opinion.


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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 10:30 PM

There are four kinds of AR shooters Schneider.
1) Purely recreational- they only shoot AR's for sh*ts and giggles and it's more of a novelty thing for them. Round counts with their rifles are typically low.
2) Shooters who want a fighting gun- they shoot their rifles for defensive purposes. These shooters typically demand top quality rifles that can withstand harsh treatment and high round counts.
3) Competition shooters- Similar to defensive shooters but their rifles are geared towards precision.
4) Varminter/Hunting applications

Of course you can have a combination of more than one of the above. The important thing we need to know is what kind of shooter you are or want to be. Once we know that we can offer advice for your situation.

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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 10:33 PM

Dude seriously, If you want a cheap AR buy a complete Plumcrazy lower for $130 and then get a complete JSE Surplus upper for $335 and there you go. A cheap AR for $465.


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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 10:45 PM

There are three kinds of AR shooters Schneider.
1) Purely recreational- they only shoot AR's for sh*ts and giggles and it's more of a novelty thing for them. Round counts with their rifles are typically low.
2) Shooters who want a fighting gun- they shoot their rifles for defensive purposes. These shooters typically demand top quality rifles that can withstand harsh treatment and high round counts.
3) Competition shooters- Similar to defensive shooters but their rifles are geared towards precision.

Of course you can have a combination of more than one of the above. The important thing we need to know is what kind of shooter you are or want to be. Once we know that we can offer advice for your situation.

well i plan on buying a RRA match at camp perry next july but i cant wait. but for the bushy i just want it for fighting/property deffence i have alot of land and alot of poachers on my land (which ussually i don't mind a few people on my land to hunt but when ur stealing my animals and game ussing quads and spotlights to kill the deer its another story)and i plan on ussing it for cyotes and ground hogs and shat like that but its going to take some abbuse and i want to know that it will keep shooting


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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 11:14 PM

well i plan on buying a RRA match at camp perry next july but i cant wait. but for the bushy i just want it for fighting/property deffence i have alot of land and alot of poachers on my land (which ussually i don't mind a few people on my land to hunt but when ur stealing my animals and game ussing quads and spotlights to kill the deer its another story)and i plan on ussing it for cyotes and ground hogs and shat like that but its going to take some abbuse and i want to know that it will keep shooting


Ok then think about this. You're looking for a gun that is dependable and durable but you're thinking about getting a gun that has many negative reviews because it is cheap. You greally going to get what you pay for. The Savage you have is a great varmint gun.


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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 11:20 PM

Ok then think about this. You're looking for a gun that is dependable and durable but you're thinking about getting a gun that has many negative reviews because it is cheap. You greally going to get what you pay for. The Savage you have is a great varmint gun.

but it weighs a ton and is really long good for being post up but that whats i wanted to know is the carbon fiber durable


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Posted Nov. 17 2010 - 11:37 PM

Read this.Bushy Lower I wouldnt purchase a Bushmaster after reading this. Just my opinion

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Posted Nov. 18 2010 - 12:05 AM

well i plan on buying a RRA match at camp perry next july but i cant wait. but for the bushy i just want it for fighting/property deffence i have alot of land and alot of poachers on my land (which ussually i don't mind a few people on my land to hunt but when ur stealing my animals and game ussing quads and spotlights to kill the deer its another story)and i plan on ussing it for cyotes and ground hogs and shat like that but its going to take some abbuse and i want to know that it will keep shooting


Any gun that is used for defense/patrol purposes should not be skimped on. You don't have to shell out a ridiculous amount, but the Bushmaster is for purely recreational/commercial purposes.

There are multiple resources that you can use to find out what a good fighting rifle consists off. I recommend you check out the Training sub-forum to see what has and hasn't worked for people. I also think you should consider checking out TacticalYellowVisor (Google it) and read some of the information there. The info there isn't the end all/be all of the AR world, but it is useful.

I know you are jonesin for a new AR, but slow your roll and make sure you get what you need rather than something to satisfy your immediate desires. I wish I had done the same when I got my first rifle (also a Bushmaster) two years ago.

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Posted Nov. 18 2010 - 12:34 AM

Like others said it depends on your situation, bushy, oly, alexander have the novelty calibers, though oly and alexander do typically rate higher than the bushy (which I don't really see). Percision, you should go with the higher end companies like noveske or POF, but a combat would be more LMT, DD, Colt, and LWRC.

I own a LMT and a bushmaster, the LMT is way more durable but the cost was about double. My bushy fires 7.62x39, which I am later upgrading with noveske and addax, novelty/shtf/home defense weapon but it is a cheap manufacturing company, so expect to upgrade parts. But if you wait and buy a colt or rra, you will probably thank yourself for doing that. Personally I veiw it like this: comabt ready: pay big bucks, percision: pay somewhat big bucks, and everything else: whatever you want.


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Posted Nov. 18 2010 - 07:47 AM

personally I'd put about $300 more into the rifle and contact Rampy about his Armalite, see link to his sale here Rampy's Armalite


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Posted Nov. 18 2010 - 09:10 AM

personally I'd put about $300 more into the rifle and contact Rampy about his Armalite, see link to his sale here Rampy's Armalite




I concur with that statement, Rampy has a nice Armalite there.

Since you are in Ohio I would add the collapsible stock to that rig as well.

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Posted Nov. 18 2010 - 11:19 PM

Read this.Bushy Lower I wouldnt purchase a Bushmaster after reading this. Just my opinion

just wondering why you wouldnt buy a bushy it seems like they handled the problem pretty good, granted thier shouldnt have been a problem to begin with.


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Posted Nov. 18 2010 - 11:40 PM

not really sure about carbon fiber. what kind of ar are you looking for: barrel length ,quad rails, flat tops or a fixed carry handle and things like that, because obviously your not guna want a 24" barrel for home defense,and it would be kinda awkword to pull out of your truck in a hurry. REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR seems like you are rushing to get one trying to find a quick cheap deal. i would keep asking questions and hold off on buying till your sure


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Posted Nov. 19 2010 - 09:47 AM

just wondering why you wouldnt buy a bushy it seems like they handled the problem pretty good, granted thier shouldnt have been a problem to begin with.

It took 5 months 8 days to give him a new lower. They handled it pretty good? Thats is unacceptable customer service.

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Posted Nov. 19 2010 - 01:35 PM

It took 5 months 8 days to give him a new lower. They handled it pretty good? Thats is unacceptable customer service.

i thought it was like 2 months for a backorder my mistake. ya they suck wiener but at least they gave him a new one. and i wont be buying one either thanks for the thread and for making me re read the postings

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