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  1. I don't know of a source off the top of my head but I'd guess your best bet is to give John at White Oak Armament a call.
  2. When you get on at the 458socomforums look for a poster who goes by flintknapper. He uses the 458 Socom extensively for hunting feral pigs in Texas. He has a long running thread on another site about his trials with hogs. Can't recall which site off hand and I don't have a link handy, but you won't find many people more knowledgeable about applying 458 caliber death to feral hogs. He also posts on arfcom under the same screen name.
  3. 458's will shoot out to 300 yards pretty well, but they are dropping pretty fast by that point. Great thing with the Socom is the range of available bullets for reloading from 250 grains to 600 subsonics. 300 grain JHP's are probably the most popular and readily available in bulk, and the Barnes 300 grain TTSX was designed specifically for .458 Socom velocities and makes a pretty awesome hunting round. A word of caution if you reload though, the 300 JHP's and the 300 TTSX are very different and load data is NOT interchangeable. Personally I like the Remington 405 grain JSP's but they've become scarce and Remington reportedly won't be making any more this year. Awesome thing with the Socom is you can use any standard lower. It does not require heavy springs or buffers or magazines. Some GI magazines will need the feed lips tweeked a bit, and PMAGs are pretty much a no go unless you grind down the rib inside the front of the mag, but Lancers run great. The upper receiver needs to have a larger ejection port than standard. I think the DPMS LoPro and one of the Mega billet uppers will work fine but mil spec uppers will have to be opened up a little bit. If you are intending to shoot all factory ammo then you'll find availability kinda slim. SBR Ammunition sells loaded ammo and components, Corbon has a couple loads, and I think Wilson Combat was going to start selling ammo. Expect a box of 20 to run you around $60. On the other hand, if you reload the sky is the limit. Lee and Redding make dies, and Lee has recently decided to make the .458 Socom FCD a standard part instead of a custom one. Midway, Grafs, and Starline among others all sell brass (manufactured by Starline). The 458socomforums has lots of load data and a few people like Big Bore that know the Socom inside and out. Marty (the creator of the socom) was on there a lot, but work recently took him out of the country for a couple years so his internet access is pretty limited. He's a great guy to deal with, I bought my barrel directly from him. Very helpful, and knows his stuff.
  4. I'm gonna guess you might be a Tolkien fan.
  5. Heck, that's a bargain. In their pre-NRA show video they said $97,000
  6. With a 1:10 the 168's should run fine, but I'd lean toward the 175's personally. The faster twist should favor the longer bullet but you'll have to try them out to be sure. That plus commonality of components between the two rifles would probably be a good thing. If you aren't happy with the either 175's or 168's give the Hornady AMAX bullets in similar weights a try.
  7. Are you absolutely certain its a 1:8 twist? I've never heard of a DPMS .308 with a 1:8 twist, or any .308 for that matter. All the DPMS .308's I'm familiar with are 1:10 which should shoot the 150's and 168's, but will prefer heavier/longer bullets like the 175 SMK or 178 AMAX.
  8. Covina for the next month, then San Dimas for a while
  9. I've never handled the Scar, but shouldering the FS2000 has been rightly compared to hugging a football. It's very wide and awkward. The one I shot also had a horrendous trigger. I was handed the rifle with ten rounds and I gave five rounds back. It was just too much of a disappointment ergonomically. Accuracy was acceptable and it ran fine, but I wouldn't waste the money.
  10. The JD machine upper is compatible with either G3 or SR-25/DPMS pattern magazines. The G3 mags are wider so there is additional clearance cut into the upper. The JD lower runs with SR-25/DPMS pattern mags only. The only lower I was aware of that could use G3 mags was the CMMG Mk8, but I think they have been discontinued.
  11. Most large manufacturers also have no real interest in selling directly to the public even if they are (grudgingly) willing to do so. Its far more efficient for them to build in bulk and sell pallet loads or truck loads of parts to a stocking dealer like ADCO or PK Firearms or someone like that who is set up for retail. Smaller manufacturers or custom builders have to combine both the manufacturing and retail distribution which incorporates a lot more steps and complications, but that's only really feasible up to a certain volume (which varies by industry and company).
  12. My understanding is that the difference is all in the chamber, specifically the throat. The Les Baer version (.264 LBC) uses a traditional single tapered throat versus the compound throat of the Grendel chamber. Otherwise they are identical. Both have fans that claim greater accuracy or lower chamber pressures or better chances of scoring with a supermodel and her twin sister if you pick their version, but I would bet that the difference has more to do with individual barrel and shooter differences than anything else.
  13. Just starting my oddball collection. 9mm .458 SOCOM .260 Remington on a large frame receiver set In the next 12 months or so I hope to add a 6.8 SPC and something in 6mm , either a .243 LBC or 6BRX. Then I think I need one of the .20s. Then...
  14. slick builds, I especially like the fluting on the middle rifle
  15. If you are willing to go to a full new rifle and step up to a large frame AR, you can build a 7-08 on a Mega MATEN or DPMS LR-308 receiver set with a Blackhole Weaponry barrel. They also have .260 Remington and .243 barrels. On a standard AR frame, if your hunting is at reasonably short range (sub 200 yards) there are always the big bore round, the .458 Socom, 50 Beowulf, and .450 Bushmaster. I'm a fan of the Socom myself, and it lobs big 300-405 grain bullets with flat out knock em on their butt energy. They recoil pretty good for an AR especially. I shoot my bolt .308 after the .458 for something more gentle to wind down with. Of the ones you listed, I would favor the 7.62 x40WT over the .300 BLK on a purely theoretical basis because you can get more powder in that case for more velocity and the .300 was designed for supressed, mainly sub-sonic shooting. 6.8 and 6.5 both have their fans and lots of success stories on big game, but I'm not sure I'd take one after a bear. Mark Larue got himself a nice Elk w/ a 6.5Grendel.
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