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  1. rmc51

    What to Get Next?

    I was going to say a F&D xar https://www.fddefense.com/rifles/xar/ Has anyone seen/used one of these? Hope you like the RRA
  2. rmc51

    Uh-Oh! I smell a new build...

    $87 ????? I think that they are better then the RRA blue cards. Got three, but I need MORE!
  3. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    Greg Do you know if anybody has looked at/tried a different bullet in any of these (450BM, 458So, 50B) like maybe a G5. I would guess a G7 is to long. Is anybody making G2 Aberdeen J projectiles?. I can't find very much info on the G2 or the G5
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    .450 Bushy Any One?

    I went over to Lehigh, They have a .452 Xtreme Penetrator 250gr Bullet BC of 0.206 for the 450BM and a .458 High Velocity Xtreme Penetrator 302gr Bullet with a BC of 0.211. That is as close as I could find between the two. What difference does the 0.005 make?
  5. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    Greg: If you have a BC of 0.206 on one bullet and 0.211 on another. How far off are the two? what does 0.005 mean in the bc column
  6. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    Yes, four hours ago I said: Please understand, I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the 450BM. Both are very close to each other. Which ever the one you choose is fine,
  7. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    yes, I just saw it. The 300gr #47A is at 1901fps
  8. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    use, https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=423 It's a long page Muzzle Velocity @ 2000 fps for Item 47C Muzzle Velocity @ 1900 fps for Item 47C
  9. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    Ok, go to Joel's first link https://www.gunmann.com/458-socom-vs-450-bushmaster/ Under the data box for the 458 data is a line: .458 SOCOM Overview The .458 SOCOM (which stands for Special Operations Command, by the way) can handle bullets ranging 140 to 600-grains. When it comes to a range of power, that’s absolutely incredible and is certainly sufficient for handling larger game. Velocity is where the .458 SOCOM starts to weaken in performance, as it manages to push 140-grain bullets at 2,528 FPS, which is fine. Double that, and you start looking at 1,798 FPS. As you can see, velocity drops pretty much in parallel with the increase in grain. .458 Velocity (Source) That red (source) is a link to: https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=423 Under the 450BM data box is a red source that is a link to: https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=524 Let me know if you fine it
  10. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    Did you find that BB data?
  11. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    Greg I started with Joel's link: https://www.gunmann.com/458-socom-vs-450-bushmaster/ then under the data box is a link named (source). that got me to BB's brake down of the round. all the data is in BB's data that I used. I didn't pull up the matching 450 round 458Socom Muzzle Velocity @ 2000 fps for Item 47C 350gr BBA JFH You find at 100yds 1687.3 velocity with 2212.3 energy ITEM 45B 360 HC 360 gr. Hard Cast, Flat Nose, You find at 100yds 1684.8 velocity with 2268.6 energy
  12. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    I started with Joel's link https://www.gunmann.com/458-socom-vs-450-bushmaster/ Under the data box is a link (source) That will bring you to the rounds data I used. Let me know if you don't find it.
  13. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    They are not using apples and apples. If you look at the data for 450 BM Muzzle Velocity @ 2000 fps for Item 45B 300 JHP. You find at 100yds 1640.9 velocity with 1793.3 energy, then 458Socom Muzzle Velocity @ 2000 fps for Item 47C 350gr BBA JFH You find at 100yds 1687.3 velocity with 2212.3 energy If you look at the descriptions: (I will paraphrase) With regards to this Item 45B 300 JHP, I would not hunt giant bears weighing over 800 lbs, If you want to hammer giant bears, use our 360 gr. hard cast load. Item 47C is the load I’d use if I wanted a jacketed bullet load for use on North Americas’ biggest game animals. This bullet has been shot into countless 2,000+ lb. buffalo and large coastal grizzlies, Please understand, I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the 450BM. Both are very close to each other. I'm tired of this misinformation crap. I use the KISS principal, both the 458so and 450BM are 100 yard hard hitters. Can they both fly farther, yes. I see my 458socom is for tipping over rouge elephants coming down your street at 100yds. Which ever the one you choose is fine, just have the true information about each one.
  14. rmc51

    .450 Bushy Any One?

    HH They are playing games with the data, look into the link for the sources: 458 SOCOM HUNTING & SNIPING AMMO BUFFALO BORE’S SUPERCHARGED 450 BUSHMASTER AMMUNITION notice they are calling the 450 Supercharged, but not the 458, Why?
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