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  1. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    That's a helpful chart, thank you. The adjustable gas block I felt wasn't right from the start. I couldn't find one exactly like it either, but I've found out it's a Gen 1 BRO block but its branded as Syrac Ordinance. What stuck out most to me was they're supposed to have a little click when you adjust it, which it never did. So silly me, checking it out and realizing screw in, less gas, out for more, you could see the adjustment screw blocking the gas port and opening up, so it should work, right? WRONG, starting from the first shot, I could tell something wasn't right. It fired, but the bolt didn't make it back far enough to eject the casing. So opening it up all the way, tok gassy, no bolt lock, and that's what I was going for, obviously. So to shorten all the details, after about 50 rounds, and every setting, which couldn't really identify the setting because it doesn't click like it's supposed to, I had a wide variety of issues, all except firing, it did that every time, so narrowed the issue to the upper area I guess, LoL. So i decided mainly due to lack of time, to call it, swap the block out for a regular one, and see what happens next time. In the meantime, I still lack the tools to accurately measure the gas port, but since it's over-gassed, I figure I'll get an H2 or H3 buffer and a JP spring probably couldn't hurt. I just keep kicking myself though for not swapping my BCG out just to eliminate that as the problem, or identify it, so until I'm able to shoot again, we can only speculate. Thanks again all, I'll update as soon as I'm able, which for $13, I'll go for an hour again before they close just to KNOW if its fixed or still has issues. And I can usually make it there by 7pm, next couple days, but thanks again everyone ***FYI, I'll likely never use that adjustable gas block, so if anyone would be interested in it to see if they can figure it out, send me a message. Not trying to sell it, cover shipping and I'll send it Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  2. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    Thank you for dumbing that down, I understand exactly now, and I'll have that info at some point in time tonight, thank you for the great suggestion. And regardless of what my findings entail, I assure you I WILL NOT be making any modifications to anything such ad that. That is smith, or machinist work, and I am FAR from being either. Can't picture myself with a high-speed drill bearing down on my barrel with a drill bit... Barrel may not be the best, but it would more than likely be junk if I attempted a mod such as that. Well, finally made it to the range, with a little less than an hour to shoot and 3 guns to fire. Results were not what I was going for, but learned a lot. NOW, the adjustable gas block is the problem. I knew there was something not right about it, and now I know. So basically in trying to solve a problem, I created an entirely new one, go figure, LMAO. Unfortunately I didn't have the time today to swap it out with a regular gas block, so no progress on my 1st build, back to square one, and hit the range again. However, I haven't mentioned my second build, it on the other hand performed flawlessly!!! 1 round, fired, bolt locked. 2 rounds loaded, both fired, ejected, bolt lock up. So having 1 gun to fire still, I put a 30rd mag down range without a hiccup, so one G2G, one still in testing. Wrong forums, but my XD with the PRP trigger kit was a dream to shoot now, and the laser guide rod is spot on at 25ft, I wasn't though. Because I was basically out of time, it was hard to focus on grouping, but as well as I did do, can't wait to see when I'm in top for and in no rush. Thanks again everyone who has offered valuable input, I'm changing out the gas block tonight and when fate finally allows me to shoot again, we'll see where it's at from there. Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  3. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    My apologies, but your statement went completely over my head. I don't understand what you meant, so if you would please explain what you wanted me to do, this time in terms that someone other than a gunsmith can understand, I would greatly appreciate it. And I have a little less than 4hrs to hit the range, finally, and I'll be sure to update y'all assuming everything goes as planned tonight. Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  4. NewARBuilder87

    1st 300BLK Build

    The thread is where real help could be used, this only applies to a current, not yet troublesome, build. That's fine, because if they're going through the trouble of responding in the first place, and aren't reading the previously posted threads, then that reply couldn't be very helpful to begin with, and is just clutter and changes subject matter in the thread. Those that are here and want to lend a hand, will, and I would think would agree with what I'm saying. Its no fun for me either, but if you're only going to criticize when you aren't up to date with the matter, and touch on a completely unrelated topic. I guess the sarcasm would indicate though the MI handguard should work just fine. Any thoughts on using a lightweight BCG for 300BLK? Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  5. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    It did not lock any of the times I ran a single round through the mag. Unfortunately, that was only 2 times and in different occasions, neither time, sadly, didn't pay attention to the details that mattered. I do know that it isn't short-stroking, when I load 2 or more, it always ejected and loaded fine, minus the bolt carrier catching the casing the one time, commonly known as a Stove-pipe jam, from my understanding. Also, the shots that went BANG when I pulled the trigger, were sharp, fast, and much more violent than the other AR's I've fired. I've also learned that others with the same barrel as I have, some have reported short-stroking issues, which they say was caused by the gas port being too small a diameter, and simply drilling it slightly larger. I don't know the exact size of my gas port, I couldn't even measure it accurately myself, lacking the tool to do precision measurements like that. What's the name of it, I can't remember the NAME for said instrument, which makes it hard to purchase. I can say I remember it being larger than I've seen, which if is actually turns out over-sized, would definitely cause issues, but adjustable gas block is installed to eliminate the problem from that area. Tried my best to get to the range today, and got to where going would of resulted in 30mins, if I was lucky, of range time, and I might not have the problem or problems identified and without a solution would be s disappointing range trip. To top it off, I've got my XD back with its new upgrades, 7 mags, and about 800 rounds ready to tear apart some paper. So tomorrow is my new goal, if I can get myself at least 2hrs, probably not needed, just a good, solid hour would be perfect, but just in case I need the extra time or decide to purchase more rounds, the option to shoot all day doesn't sound bad, but no way I can wait for that day. I'll try my damndest, and update tomorrow regardless. Any extra questions or insight, feel free to chime in, lets please just stay on topic and keep replies helpful and intellectual, beyond function checks and backwards springs, thanks all the same Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  6. NewARBuilder87

    1st 300BLK Build

    Thanks again for not reading my post, it's clear y'all don't have the intention of helping me. If you DID read, like all posts are intended to be, you'd of learned that I appreciate your concern, but before getting in to the platform, I familiarized myself with the legalities. Just because I'm not running 1,000's of rounds through a dozen setups, doesn't mean I'm a fool who would just willy-nilly put together one of the most controversial and debated set up the AR offers. No one with half an ounce of sense would even plan building any type of firearm without researching the most important part before all other parts, can you even legally own one where you live? Once again, thanks for the concern, but if I asked about spending $200 just to legally run a stock on my build instead of a brace. I'll make due. If you have any real answers, suggestions, or insight to the questions I opened this thread for, they are welcome. Lets try to stay on topic, if you want to rant about something else, find another thread that associates with what's really on your mind... http://ar15armory.com/forums/topic/186167-ar-pistol-build-troubleshoot-need-help/ Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  7. NewARBuilder87

    1st 300BLK Build

    Since when was there any such thing as a stupid question? Of course, there are, but I asked the question about the handguard in sincerity, and you have the audacity to mock? What makes you so much better than everyone that instead of constructive criticism, or heaven forbid some honest, thought-out advice, you take the time to massage a book mocking? If you don't want to give me friendly advice, why did you even respond here? Find another forum or chat where adults go to talk like school children bullying the fat kid... And that's when I joined the forums so I could ask, respond, and interact, instead of just troll. I've been reading this forum for almost 8 months, so I don't feel so new, though my membership is. As for everyone else, thank you for the concern, I'm fully aware of the legality and definitions of the different set-ups. My apologies for not stating said info, but there are some things that I wouldn't think I'd have to spell out. If you're trolling here half as much as i do, you'd of seen my thread on my first AR build, a 10.5in 5.56 But thanks everyone for the concern, and Longhair for the help. I'll update when I make some more progress on the build. If you're REALLY in a helping mood, I have a troubleshooting thread I could sure use help on. I'll post the link. This thread can be archived. https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ear15armory%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Findex%2Ephp%3F%2Ftopic%2F186167-AR-Pistol-Build-Troubleshoot%2C-Need-Help&share_tid=186167&share_fid=61394&share_type=t AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk .
  8. NewARBuilder87

    1st 300BLK Build

    As y'all may know, I'm not too new to the forums, I'm the one always seeming to have issues that I never have time to solve, LoL. But with my 1st and 2nd AR 5.56 builds complete, full function has yet to be reached, I've been dying to find out all the hype to the 300BLK is all about, so I decided to build one. With a lower I had no intention of buying, but wouldn't pass up for $16.50 + S&H, was perfect place to start. With my Anderson lower and Anderson LPK, I got a stripped upper and put that together. On to the barrel, I found a killer deal on an ODIN Works 10.5in barrel, so made it that far, now, the handguard. 1. Can I use the same type if handguard on a 300BLK AR as a 5.56/.233? I've decided on the Midwest Industries M-Series one piece free float L-LOK, and wanted to know if it would fit. If anyone knows or has any insight in the handguard situation, LMK please, I'd greatly appreciate it. 2. I already found out that any standard 5.56/.223 BCG will also shoot 300BLK, being they're based off the same casing, but due to its lower pressure than the 5.56 round, should I maybe go for a lightweight BCG, or would a regular BCG be alright? Or if someone knows something I should on the subject, I'd be grateful if they shared said knowledge. Other info that'd probably help y'all help me, is I won't be using a suppressor, at least not for a long time to come, and I'm sure when I fill out my for and pay all that cash up front, I'll build an AR specifically for shooting suppressed, but until then, anything anyone thinks would be useful advice, I'd be more than glad to hear it. Thanks again everyone for all your help and advice, IDK what I'd do if I hadn't found this forum... Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  9. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    I have not tried it in my other receiver, mainly because its pretty different, and I didn't think it would yield much info, but I will when I get the chance. Besides, the rifle build has issues of its own, so results be even less tell, and more confusing, most likely. I came to the conclusion it was over-gassed from the way it fired, it was more violent, and really pushed that bolt around pretty hard. So much so, I'd get stove pipes because the bolt returned to battery so fast it would catch the brass before it cleared the ejection port door. And your next question I don't know the exact answer to, but I remember it being wider than many others I've seen at the carbine length. My Thoughts: Once I tune the gas block better, and get some more rounds put through the system, that should solve the problem, I hope. A heavier buffer and maybe one of those SI flat wire springs, then I think I would be good to move on to the FINE tuning, upgrades, and accessories/sights. Unfortunately I've been busier than hell, running my company, 8-12hrs a day 7 days a week, on a regular basis I might add, so getting out to the range is only a dream at the moment. When the time comes, I will be jumping on it, and finally get more answers/solutions than questions. Until then, anyone who has any thoughts, ideas, or insight, I'd love to hear what you have to say. Thanks again everyone, any more questions or picture requests to further learn the whole picture of the problem, feel free to ask. I'll LYK as soon as I manage a trip to the range, you'll be the first to know how it goes. Thanks again everyone. ***UPDATE on my BCG, if it's relevant, the total mass of it is 11.57oz, 1.535 bolt, 9.46 carrier, the rest was FP, FP retainer, and cam pin. Waiting still to find out brand or manufacturer. Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  10. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    As far as the bolt closing, I can NOW ride it all the way home, receivers closed. Open, slides like butter until it gets to the bolt going in to battery part, but it only requires a little assistance to lock up. When I first got it though, it was a little sticky, not wanting to close up all the way and sticking like a b**** when trying to charge. The gas line and key line up as well as can be, no rubbing or friction, just sliding like a well-oiled machine. Which brings me to that, oil. As you said, I can't stand "dripping" wet firearm, but I'm pretty liberal with the oil. I've got a nice little precision oiler too so I'm able to get those hard to reach places. As far as the barrel goes, not the best, but its an AR Stoner, 10.5in, stainless steel, 1:8 twist, chambered for 5.56 NATO, and I got it brand new from MIDWAYUSA. The gas block isn't the only one I've got, I have a regular one(non-adjustable), but its the one I replaced with the adjustable one due to being way over-gassed. And the BCG is also not the only one I've got, I have a RRA AR15 (semi-auto) chromed BCG, and the issue persists with that one installed too. Unfortunately I haven't had the time or opportunity to be able to tune the gas block, even 1 shot at a time, or test if turning it to safe and back to fire after the 1st shot makes a difference. It SHOULDN'T, being I ran through the function test and it performed as its supposed to. Its also debris and dirt free, minus the oil of course. I clean the hell out of it more than regularly, even if not necessary sometimes just due to dust and dog hair, LoL. Really, my next step is replace the buffer spring with one of those JP tuned ground centerless springs, and either and H1 or H2 buffer. IDK if that'll solve anything, but it can't hurt to upgrade. Until I'm actually able to go and shoot freely in order to run diagnosis, I won't know what the issue is or what's causing it. I've read some people with the same issue, sometimes doesn't start until after xxx amount of rounds successfully fired. Some it does it a few times and then it starts running fine without anything physically being done to the firearm. I'm hoping it just needs more rounds run through it, in order to get past that "break-in" period, being everything on the gun is brand spanking new. If there's any other info anyone could use that could possibly use that may help, please ask. Even if there's a pic of something that won't be of any help, I can do that too, LoL, like the FCG. Thanks again to everyone who helps put their heads together, WE CAN solve this issue. Please don't hesitate to ask whatever or pics of whatever, this issue has me pretty frustrated, and my 300BLK build is suffering due to this major inconvenience. ANYWAYS, feel free to ask whatever, and I'll answer it to the best of my ability. Pic requests, as long as they don't get too crazy. Thanks again everyone, I seriously can't thank y'all enough for helping me with this. P.S. For whatever reason, I'm having the same issue with my AR rifle build, but one thing at a time... Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  11. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    Sorry, obvious things I can't believe I didn't include, here's what I'm running: -Carbine gas system with a Syrac Ordinance adjustable gas block -Federal Premium American Eagle FMJ 5.56mm 55-Grain Ammunition -Standard carbine buffer(2.9 or 3oz) with a standard carbine spring -BCG is I'm not too sure the make, wasn't cheap though, a NiB Full Auto BCG, weighs either 11.5 or 12oz, I'll LYK which later when I can weigh it again. I'll post pics if that'll help. Please feel free to ask whatever you think may help a diagnosis. Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  12. NewARBuilder87

    AR Pistol Build Troubleshoot, Need Help

    Ok, after FINALLY finishing my first AR build, it was time to test it, more than a single shot. I'll start where the issues started. Initially, when I test-fired the single round for the first time, it was plain to even a newbie such as myself it was WAY over-gassed. The bolt didn't lock back on the empty mag, recoil was more violent than other AR's I've shot, and one time the bolt even caught the casing before it cleared the ejection port door, stovepipe jam. So, after installing an adjustable gas block to tone it down some, I went back to test fire. First round fired wonderfully, ejected great, and loaded up the next round, all like it should functioning properly. Here is where the issue started, round 2. After being successfully loaded, pulled the trigger and CLICK... WTF I'm thinking. Tried again, a few times, all resulting in the same, 1st shot fires, second gets a CLICK. Now I've been reading and reading some more all over, and I was relieved to hear I wasn't the first person with this issue, far from it in fact. The only problem with all that I've read is despite begin the same, or highly similar, issue occurring, there isn't one cause, I found out, to my dismay, that there are a number of reason this could happen. I did a FCG function check, and it passed well, disco grabbed after recharging the hammer while holding the trigger and released, another pull and it released the hammer like its all supposed to. NOW, I'm stuck, it isn't dirty or worn, it's all brand new parts, despite that I've still cleaned the you-know-what out of everything my tools could possibly clean, even places that wouldn't affect what's going on. Oil, it wasn't soaked, but I wasn't shy with it by any standard, and still the issue occurs. Where I'm at now, going to try and tune the gas block as best as I can, one round at a time, see if that helps. Only thing I can think of is being a new bolt and barrel, and still likely too much gas, when the bolt goes back in to battery, it isn't 100% closed. I haven't had the time or opportunity to test this yet, so I'm taking all advice, thoughts, and causes from y'all more experienced AR shooters until I can test my theory. I'll update, hopefully before the weekend is out, so we'll all know a little more and hopefully get this issue narrowed down and solved as quickly, easily, and the least expensive as possible. Before anyone asks, the disco spring is in properly, as is the trigger and hammer springs. My plan is to tune the gas until I can get the bolt to lock after the last round, while doing so, try the forward assist after the first shot to see if the bolt moves any. As always, I appreciate y'alls time and help. I thought I'd be able to do it all by my lonesome, but I've obviously got much to learn yet, and everyone needs a little help now and again. Yes, it did take me a week of frustration and debate even ASK for help, guess it's one of my bad habits, but I learn best the hands-on way, but when it comes to risking possible person injury, or worse, its time to swallow pride and try something the smart way. Looking forward to hearing what y'all think, and if you need any further info, pics, or whatever from me to help a diagnosis, just LMK, and I'll try to get it on here as quickly as I can. Thanks again everyone, as always, be safe and don't forget to have fun!!! Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  13. NewARBuilder87

    To tighten, or not to tighten...

    But the clamp-on style, is it still considered a "free float" handguard? As long as I don't hear any con's that say otherwise, I plan on trying out a few, Midwest Industries makes a sweet M-Lok handguard that would be BOSS on my 3rd build, 300BLK pistol, BTW, info will be posted in the future when its more than a complete lower, minus buffer system, and upper. Thanks for the comment, anyone else care to weigh in on handguard attachment methods pro's/con's? Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  14. NewARBuilder87

    To tighten, or not to tighten...

    Not too sure what you mean by that, but I'm here to report that the problem is resolved!!! I ended up just trying the barrel nut on another stripped upper I had on my 3rd builds upper/lower, and it ended up being able to line up nicely, while still being tight enough, and barely... Because, through much internet surfing, I discovered this type of barrel nut is common among free floating handguards, so slight topic change, I'd like anyone's take on the handguards the have the 2-5 screws all tightened on the under-side of the handguard towards the receiver. I'd hate to run in to this issue with that type of handguard which I prefer, so I'm willing to hear pro's/con's of handguards that attach in other methods besides screwing in to the barrel nut directly. Thanks again everyone for all your help and opinions, y'all make me a better builder every day!!!408 Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
  15. NewARBuilder87

    Quick Question

    Ok, only being maybe 4 months in to the AR platform, I've really only had experience with new AR's built with new parts. I no longer have have a factory built AR to use as a comparison, but does the bolt on a new BCG tend to be a bit sticky, or tight, for lack of a better term, when closing into the barrel? For instance, if I ride the CH and gently let it close, it won't even lock, causing a FTF, FTE, and a double-feed, all in one go, correct? And is the solution to pretty much to shoot the thing so it'll break in properly? My 1st build has this issue practice cycling/firing with dummy rounds, it's BCG and barrel are brand new, my 2nd build not-so-much, due to the BCG is new, but the barrel isn't. Do just need to get out of the workshop and get some range time in? I think I'm over-diagnosing, and worrying too much, being a new builder. This weekend I'll try to get a range report for both my 1st and 2nd builds, as well as my Springfield XD I'm dying to get back from the gunsmith... Thanks again everyone for your help/input/knowledge, I learn more here than anywhere else, easily. Thanks again ahead of time Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk