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    Long time reloader and competitive shooting. Started doing IPSC in 1980. Enjoy long range shooting at prairie dogs and have taught all over the US for M/O classes.

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  1. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    Generally that is exactly what I figure but I learned to be cautious of just touching the shell holder. It can be too little or too much and in my out of the box stuff it is not an option. Apparently it works for the BR guys as they do it all the time as they move shoulders in and out on some of their variants like the 6 PPC made up as Talldogs, Waldogs and other Short Dogs. Plus the various 308 BR cases that are squeezed massaged and blown out. Greg
  2. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    In think the JR will not. Just raise the arm and watch without a die in place. If the ram doesn't retreat at TDC then it will not. Greg
  3. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    True cam over is where the linkage shoves the case up in to the die making solid contact and then you keep pushing and it breaks over retracting the case. Kind of like a piston reaching TDC and then starting back down. When you raise the arm it goes BACK up in the die and then once it reaches TDC it comes back down out of the die. To "cam over" a guy has to basically stress the crap out of things flexing the press up. Not good. The arm only goes up so far and you can adjust the die to that height how can that change from case to case?. I also mount my Lyman AA presses so I can not "cam over" using the bench as an arm stop. Also my Dillon presses will not "cam over" so for me I have eliminated that potential. Shell holder don't have to touch and doing the American 30 they can;t touch if you want the case to fit, Truly a bit exaggerated but here's a god shot of it. Full extension. My Valkyrie die sets about 0.005 off solid hard contact on the shell holder. The NXS also never touches the shell holder as it is using 22 Nolser dies backed off to emulate the 6 MM Hagar shoulder. You do what you have to do to fit these weird chambers in teh wildcatting world but unfortunately even with OTC chamberings not everything matches up every time. My work on the shooting bench so far loos decent and itch like me doesn't hesitate to grind his holders down. It works for us. For others the mileage will vary and I will be blissfully ignorant until they send me on to the big shooting range. That shell holder had not been ground at this point and as it is the one I justdid it will be even more exaggerated. The area that does not get touched is so far back on the case head it wouldn't get sized down anyway as it is the thickest part of the head. With over ten loadings on some cases we've never had a chambering issue. Greg PS: Thank goodness for coffee!!
  4. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    I've never heard of them and I'm sure they will put holes in targets beyond a doubt. The bare bones approach to their Internet site is a bit of a turn off to me. Kind of like sticking a Post It note up on the bulletin board at the local 7-11 that you have some furniture to sell. I will freely admit I have a bit of the crow in me and I like a bit of flash and bang and that one just didn't do it for me. I do plan on loading up some Bob's in one of my best 223 bolt guns later and shooting some groups. I suspect that I'll be very pleased with them since the AR attempts were so good. Greg
  5. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    Exactly what I was going to say. For blasting I'm sure they would be fine but why not blast away and have virtual match grade ammunition at the same time? It takes no longer to load. Any 55 FMJ's I buy in the future wil come from Bob's Bullets that I tested earlier and wrote up here. Theyare only $0.83 each/1000 but withe the Armory code that go down to $0.73. What's not to like.They are by far the BEST 223' FMJ's I have ever seen or shot and no I don't wok for him.. Greg
  6. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    So neither advocates case press cam over that I see. I never saw where Zediker said not to touch the shell holder only not to stress the system. I don't see any difference between the two at all. My measurements of the ground shell holder loaded cases don't come up with the variations in McPherson's book or I wouldn't do it. Case to case spring back will come in to play to some extent. Those that anneal frequently will cut this down somewhat as well as aid in consistent neck tension. All that being said of what comes off the press and consistency there is the phenomenon of cases trying to return to the ORIGINAL size that they assumed after firing. Cases you load today may well measure much longer in two weeks, months or years. If you load for virtual zero head space using cases fired in another rifle you may well find that that PD trip next year is going to have some problematic case fitment. Another use for annealing right there. Greg
  7. GLShooter

    I swear I'm going soft in the head....

    Yeah. I lost a flash drive in a drawer and looked four times for it!! The next day it was there. Damn cats!!!! Greg
  8. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    No fight here. I've decided a long time ago.LOL I'd be like converting me to be a Catholic, or Lutheran for that matter, at this stege of my life. Not going to happen but I'm a firm believer in guys doing what they want. Lee doesn't mind replacing broken presses I hear.... Greg
  9. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    Like Heckle and Jeckle... Greg
  10. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    LOL. I've already stated my stance on that. Greg
  11. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    I'm sure someone has a reason. I've read many and none have been persuasive to me. The leave in the die deal is what Zediker mentions and it does make a difference. On top of that not all presses will cam over based on their linkage design. Greg
  12. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    The part holding the case head is not touched. It doesn't matter on the top since the die no longer touches it. Grrg
  13. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    Yeah and that occurs how? Greg Shoving it in the die twice and stressing the frame doesn't cut it for me. If it is an issue leaving the case at full insertion for five seconds will "set " them and lower spring back.
  14. GLShooter

    So, Who Is At The Bench Today?

    I believe running minimum chambers like mine are cut to has a huge effect on the tolerances. I have three or four combinations that I have discovered that do tat. That being said by grinding down four shell holders, 223, 6.5, 6.8 and .308, I've invested about 30 minutes and am GTG. My first encounter was on my M1A and the Hornady not sizing the cases back so I sent it off and Horandy shortened the die for me. A few bucks and some inconvenience but no big deal. I quit that turning in the die to the shell holder a long time ago after learning my .221 Fireball dies were way too short and I separation of the case head way too many times compared to other guys so a bit more flexibility on these is fine. I also don't believe in this cam over that guys rave on. I guess I'm stupid but I see no benefit in it and no one I've read or talked with can give me a viable explanation on the process. Greg BTW have you shot your Valkyries yet?
  15. GLShooter

    Left ejecting bolt compatibility?

    Heck buy a 223 also and be flxible. LOL Greg
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