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  1. To quote a very good friend of mine: "don't hold your hand under your a** waiting"! Bruce
  2. OK. You still did say how they were different, only that they were. Actually, they operate exactly the same way. They are Browning tilting barrel recoil operated type autoloading pistols which will accept the same parts as any other 1911 pistol with a similar amount of fitting. The firing cycle (action timing)for all 1911 pistols is based on the .45 ACP cartridge including the one mentioned the barrel lugs, lug recesses in the slide, link pins, swinging link, etc. are all essentially similar to any other 1911 and operate the same way.. Attempts to change that timing usually involve using stronger recoil springs, adding mass to the slide, adding a square bottom firing pin stop and all combinations of the aforementioned. They are all bandaid type work arounds. The timing actually needs to be retarded the way Peter stall did it with the Linkless upper and the way Paul Leibenberg did on the Centimeter 1911's and the 4006 prototypes he built for Smith & Wesson after their engineers originally said it could not be done. They changed the camming to retard the actions opening based on the energy the 10mm (or 40 S&W) produces during firing. Anyway, everything needs to slow down so that the chamber pressure is lower when the action starts to open and the way to do that correctly is changing some of the basic mechanics a little bit. That seems to take a little too much time however, especially in todays world of instant gratification. Bruce
  3. OK, I'll bite. What facts might those be? Supply me with your facts. Always looking to be more educated as I definitely am not a politician. OK, I'll bite a second time. How are these two guns substantially different than any other 1911 clone. Bruce
  4. Wolff does not include the extra fire firing pin spring because they have a surplus of them, they icluded them because they feel they need to be installed in order to prevent accidental slam fire or full auto incidents. Using a recoils spring which is up tp 40% stronger than stock slams the slide forward with considerable extra force.(incidentally, slides can be battered in both directions) All components in the slide assembly acquire considerable extra forward inertia and the only thing restraining the firing pin from moving forward after the slide stops abruptly is the firing pin spring. 2 cents worth of opinion. Bruce
  5. Actually, other guns besides Glocks go KaBoom and the reasons vary. It just that Glocks are very popular because of their price point right now and in the 10mm chambering, the reuse of "Glocked" brass plus the barrels being unsupported to varying degrees has as much and/or probably more to do with these accidents than the use of cast lead bullets in polygonal rifled barrels. Personally, I would never recommend any 10mm 1911 because the real deal ammo overpowers the platform IMO and I don't give a hoot what springs or square bottom firing pin stops you're using. It isn't a question of containing chamber pressure but rather the swinging link system along with accelerated wear to the barrel lugs and the corresponding slide recesses. The original Delta Elite frames cracked above the rear slide stop opening so Colt just removed the steel from that area so it couldn't crack. If it's not present , it can't crack and expose a deeper issue. Cracks in that area of the frame are not unheard of regardless of chambering because the frame flexes during the firing sequence and that area is subjected to repetative cycles of tension and compression forces. The 10mm round just excaserbates the condition however. Similarly, the barrel lug recesses seemed to wear quickly in the Delta Elites and more that one slide has actually been said to crack in that area. They also used a "consumable" recoil buffer-something I do not believe Colt used in any other of their 1911's but I could be wrong. These are definite signs that you have surpassed the platform's design envelope. As far as the swinging link goes, even JMB move on from it with the P35 Hi-Power as did Smith & Wesson in their 2nd and 3rd Generation autoloaders including the 10xx series and you can add Peter Stahl to that list with the Omega and SA with their "linkless" 10mm 1911 style guns. And then there is the Bren Ten. :) Bruce
  6. The beat place to look for these would be the big blue SmithWesson Forum with eBay a distant second place. These will not be inexpensive. Bruce
  7. Leading problems and kabooms in Glock pistols are direct functions of incorrect sizing and lubrication plus lax maintenance IMO. Cast bullets in my SA Omega do not produce undue leading problems. That said, the polygonal rifling in a Glock is slightly different than that used in my Omega, for instance. Therefore, extra caution must be exercised when using cast bullets in the Glock. The notion that Glock's rifling forms a tighter seal may or may not be true. In view of that possibility, extra care should be exercised during load development as maximum loads which are safe in a DW, MIMber or Colt may, for that reason, be overpressure in a Glock. This just re-inforces my view that top loads (actually all loads) should be developed for individual pistols and the work of other people not be copied. Lose the notion that load data is a recipe and complete your due dilligence when loading. It's a recipe for you only if you developed it for a particular pistol you own. Nothing more and nothing less. Incidentally, incorrect sizing & lubrication is the main cause of leading and not alloy hardness or lack of same. Bullets can be unnecessarily hard but almost invariably not too hard although a hardness increases, so does the need for exact sizing. Bruce
  8. Vltor's rep at this year's S.H.O.T. Show told a member of the Bren-Ten.com Forum that there was "no way in hell" that Vltor would pursue the project. There has been no posting on the so-called blog since July 2011 and I would expect that to disappear in the not too distant future. It's dead and buried long ago, especially now that Kincel has departed Vltor Weapons Systems. Bruce
  9. During his time at Vltor Weapons Systems, Eric Kincel earned a reputation as an arrogant, egotistical twit who specialized in deceitful responses to questions and snarkey replies to criticism. Further, when caught in outright lies on Vltor's blog, he would resort to deleting your posts and essentially banning you from further posting. I'm not the only one who made his s*** list. I may not like an answer to a question I ask but I do expect an honest, truthful answer-not a lie via ommision of information or the intentional use of term which can be interpreted multiple ways (weasel words). Nice and Eric Kincel are not two mutually inclusive terms IMO. By the way, Vltor makes top rated products. How did that union work out? Bruce
  10. Vltor entered into a licensing agreement with Richard Voit for use of the Intellectual Property associated with the Bren Ten, namely the "Circle X" logo and the names "Bren Ten" and "Power Seal" rifling. I assume there was little if any up front money but rather a royalty for each gun sold. Vltor then turned the use of the Gunsite Raven logo into a real pooch screw with Buzz Mills. The story of that fiasco would fill another thread. It's also my understanding that Abrams Airborne/Vltor Weapons Systems/MILKOR USA (and what ever other signs are currently hanging over their door these days) also bought hard-copies of all drawings for all products produced and contemplated by Dornaus & Dixon from Mike Dixon. In the final analysis, Vltor's commitment to this project was never really there and further, they drilled way too many holes in the bottom of the boat themselves by trying to redesign the entire fire control (again) so that no Fortis/Bren Ten parts would interchange with the original. There was a very limited liability exposure there to begin with because so few original guns are still in service plus there are only so many ways to build the same mousetrap. Tom Dornaus had already danced that dance with the Peregrine Falcon yet he never heard word one from anybody associated with Vltor(??)! That is very odd in that he did the majority of the redesign which became the Falcon and that variation of the Bren Ten actually worked really well and was ready for production. Anyway, whatever resources were expended by Vltor on the Bren Ten's fire control redesign essentially amounted to grossly wasted time and effort. If Vltor really intended to do this, they literally out-thought themselves in addition to alienating most everybody not under their immediate sphere of influence. Actually, if you count Spirit Gun Manufacturing LLC and Sporting Products LLC, they alienated people under their sphere of influence also. Possibly you can screw around the Federal Government like that but John Q. Consumer civilian customer, not so much. They make my a** tired. Bruce
  11. The Glock is a good, reliable and extremely ugly gun IMO. The Best-not hardly. Bruce
  12. Unless the seller can produce a Smith & Wesson factory letter showing that the gun was originally shipped in it's current configuration, I'd have to assume that the porting was done after the fact and even "factory" porting was aftermarket as Smith & Wesson didn't do that work in house to my knowledge. Steer clear of the apparently altered shooter grade gun at the "highly collectible" price. If it letters, that's a different story. Bruce
  13. Smith & Wesson 1006 all the way. Heavy (which is good for a 10mm shooting full power ammo), strong, accurate and reliable. Personally, I'll trade the extra weight lesser capacity for the comforting feeling of real steel, not polymer tactical tupperware but that's just me entering geezerdom I guess. I never liked either the grip angle on a Glock or any striker fired gun regardless of manufacturer. Plus, regardless of what Glock may have changed, the "kaboom" factor and "Glocked" brass are still always in the back of my head. Glocks are very reliable tools but for me............... The Witness leaves me cold due to wretched CS and poor QC and, IMO, the 1911 is a poor platform for the 10mm and this has nothing to do with it's ability to containing chamber pressures of full power 10mm ammo. Regardless of which you choose, you pays your money and takes your chance. $0.02 worth of opinion. ;) Bruce
  14. I wasn't saying that reliability was an issue but rather that you had to find the sweet spot for real accuracy. It just does not shoot any type of ammo really accurately. As for feeding issues in 1911 pistols being due in large part to magazine problems, why-that's pretty much common knowledge I guess. Really? The manufacturer of Austrian Perfection absolutely doesn't feel this was and has official policy to the contrary. Then again, I have never had leading issues with the Omega but that was Peter Stahl's work, not Glocks. If you have not already done so, try Peter Stahl directly in Germany. Also, I do believe that SA has that part available but only for in-house repairs and not for an over the counter repair part sale. It's also should be the revised version which dealt with the breakage issue. Incidentally, I'm on board with everything reported in "The FiringLine" article, right up to the point where they give the okee dokee to shooting the .40 S&W in the Omega. I don't care if the gun has a dozen Heavy-Duty extractor's to hold the round against the breach face, the round was meant to headspace off the case mouth and firing the .40's has to erode the shoulder in the chamber over time. Picking up replacement 10mm Peter Stahl linkless barrels isn't exactly like picking up blades of grass in the park! You can't compare this to shooting "specials" in .357 and .44 magnum chambers because those rounds headspace off the rim. When the MFG. says it OK to shoot ammunition out of a gun it's not chambered for; then I buy in. It's not a question of getting it to work but if this a smart thing to do. Shooting .40's in a 10mm barrel is a false economy IMO. Bruce
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