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I am pretty new to the AR15 world and am looking to build my first one. I would like to have a rifle for hunting deer and possibly bear as well as having a 'tactical' rifle. I was thinking a foregrip, eotech site, light, etc for tactical, but then being able to take some of that off such as the site and foregrip and plopping down a scope for hunting. Is this really a feasible type of thing to do? Thanks

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No problem with that type of setup.

 

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556 is not what you want for bear. I will disagree with it for deer especially large ones but opinion vary on that subject. I dont think anybody is going to say it is a good bear round. You could do an AR is another caliber say 4.62x39 and it would rock for all 3 purposes.

 

second, check with your state law, I will willing to bet the very first thing you are going to want to take off is the light. I dont know off hand of any state that lets you hunt deer with a gun that has a light on it. In tennessee it will ruin your day if they catch you with a light mounted on a hunting rifle or even a pistol if you are hunting at the time.

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No problem with that type of setup.

 

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556 is not what you want for bear. I will disagree with it for deer especially large ones but opinion vary on that subject. I dont think anybody is going to say it is a good bear round. You could do an AR is another caliber say 4.62x39 and it would rock for all 3 purposes.

 

second, check with your state law, I will willing to bet the very first thing you are going to want to take off is the light. I dont know off hand of any state that lets you hunt deer with a gun that has a light on it. In tennessee it will ruin your day if they catch you with a light mounted on a hunting rifle or even a pistol if you are hunting at the time.

He means 7.62x39 (in case you are really new at this).

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He means 7.62x39 (in case you are really new at this).

Good catch. Fingers are not doing what they are told today.

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Or .308 AR. I bet you could take down a bear with that and I'm sure it would drop a deer. Another option also would be use a magnifier on a FTS mount with the EOTech. Just my thoughts.

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DPMS also makes an AR in .243, a great all around hunting round. It will work on black bear too.

 

I wouldn't rely on it for elk or grizz though.

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Thanks guys. I was thinking of 6.8 for the caliber. Any advice on a good barrel length for a combination gun like this? I rarely am in terrain to take shots beyond 200 yards...but I don't want something that is too terribly long for the tactical aspect of things.

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Thanks guys. I was thinking of 6.8 for the caliber. Any advice on a good barrel length for a combination gun like this? I rarely am in terrain to take shots beyond 200 yards...but I don't want something that is too terribly long for the tactical aspect of things.

 

 

I give a thumbs up to a 6.8SPC. I have had three, 1 18" and 2 16". I think 16" would do fine for a dual purpose rifle. That is what I currently have for a hog hunting rifle. Just make sure you get one with a Spec II chamber and preferably 11 or 12 to 1 rifling. If you want to investigate the 6.8, check out 68forums.com.

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458 SOCOM = Anything in North America, and with good loads not much of anything on earth wont go down. Short range though. Think 45/70ish

6.8 SPC = Good all round cartridge .277 bullets

6.5 G and variants = not my favorite, but excellent BC and carries energy at distance better than most.

.308 = excellent all round, easy to find hunting ammo, you can get milsurp for tactical also. Most are considered heavy, YMMV.

.300 BLK = Fireball / Whisper clone. Excellent for shorter range suppressed hunting with heavy bullets, don't get it for supersonic use as 6.8 or 7.62x40 would be better.

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6.8 is a good round and I am thinking of changing over a SBR to a 6.8, but still using it for Bear still might be too small.

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There is always the .50 Beowolf.

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When I was in college in Missouri, I killed 7 or 8 deer with a 22-250 with factory Remington 55 grain loads, all over 200 yards. Only one took a step or two before it fell. I would think the .223 would be o.k. for deer. Or am I missing something?

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Anyone able to recommend some good 6.8 uppers? Been searching a lot and haven't found very many, the best was here http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index....p=1&cat=174

 

I can upgrade it to the 7.0 omega rails, but that seems like it will be a pretty short gun...

 

I have had 3 6.8SPC uppers. The 1st was a Stag that never fed ammo reliably (Stag refuses to use M4 feedramps, even in their 6.8s, which were designed that way.) The other two both came from AR Performance, a Colorado shop that specializes in the 6.8SPC. One was 18" and my current one is a 16". They have a variety of different barrels, handguards, and other options.

 

AR Performance

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WA hunting regulations

 

Page 68:

 

 

Rifles:

Big game, except cougar, must be hunted

with a minimum of 24 caliber (6mm) centerfire

rifle. Cougar may be hunted with 22 caliber

centerfire rifle. Rimfire rifles are not legal for

big game.

 

 

Handguns:

Big game, except cougar, may be hunted with

handguns with a minimum barrel length of 4

inches per manufacturers specification, and

fire a minimum 24 caliber centerfire cartridge.

The minimum for cougar is a 22 caliber

centerfire handgun. Rimfire handguns are not

legal for big game.

 

 

Shotguns:

 

Deer, bear, and cougar may be hunted with 20

gauge to 10 gauge shotguns shooting slugs or

#1 or larger buckshot. Other big game may be

hunted with a 10 or 12 gauge shotgun using

slugs. Hunters must use #4 shot or smaller

(e.g. #6 shot is legal) to hunt turkey

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