bamashooter Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, md65636 said: I agree G. I still can not figure out why people want the US to be like Venezuela. For most, misguided ideologies, for the remainder, absolute power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gshayd Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 The pimple is eventually going to pop. Then the neighbors will probably step in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamashooter Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Here we go boys and girls. Painted into the proverbial corner. John Bolton "National security adviser John Bolton on Sunday warned of a “significant response” to any violence or intimidation against U.S. diplomats in Venezuela or the country's current government. “Any violence and intimidation against U.S. diplomatic personnel, Venezuela’s democratic leader, Juan Guiado [sic], or the National Assembly itself would represent a grave assault on the rule of law and will be met with a significant response,” Bolton tweeted." Looks like the current junta has already given our diplomats an additional 30 days in country. lol Edited January 27, 2019 by bamashooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamashooter Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Today, Bolton's legal pad with "5,000 troops to Colombia"? I say it was his "fake news" ploy. Too obvious and out of character for him. Thoughts? Scroll down a little to zoomed pic: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-28/5000-troops-colombia-quell-venezuela-crisis-john-bolton-flashes-notepad-contents?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+(zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSmokey Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 4:15 PM, Flesh Wound said: I'll even chip in for airfare.... Like they need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorceress 21 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 10:55 AM, bamashooter said: I give it 60 days for locals to overthrow and install the other dude. If not and it continues as is, then a bs UN resolution will be introduced and regardless of the resolution outcome, it'll be followed by a multi-nation military intervention. But if our embassy takes a hit within the next couple of days or our diplomats are "detained", I believe Trump will order a swift action based upon already prepared contingency plans. I'm really surprised there has been no detection of ship-borne Marines, Ranger BNs, Air cav assets, etc being on the move to include locations within central and south America. I wouldn't be so sure we haven't. It's very likely a Marine Assault Group is already en-route or has at least been placed on alert. On 1/24/2019 at 6:02 PM, md65636 said: I agree G. I still can not figure out why people want the US to be like Venezuela. Intolerance is the answer. When a group of people become "intolerant" to their inherent condition they embrace any ideology that promises them an end to that condition. This is the vicious circle of socialism, it promises everything but delivers only tyranny. Those subjected to that system blame only the individuals at the top of the socialist system, they never blame the system itself because they would be forced to admit that "Utopianism" and absolute equality thru "socialism" is a false promise. This is why Socialism still exists. Think about about it...What is actually bad about what the socialists want? Equality despite race, sex, religion, gender, social class etc., free education, free money, free healthcare, pretty much a free life without effort! Who wouldn't want that? The promise of Utopia! It's a beautiful sight, a beautiful dream and a beautiful wish. But just because I think Kate Beckinsale is one of the most beautiful women alive doesn't mean I get to take Kate out on a date tomorrow night!! Utopianism only works under the following conditions: Leaders who are absolutely above abusing their power and live their lives on equal terms as the masses. People can still individually "earn" "more" through hard work and dedication. Monetary or political stature does not determine power of voice or opinion. The system allows absolute freedom to live one's life under any capacity or belief he or she sees fit provided such life does not victimize another (Actual victimization not victimization via identity politics). 100% resource based economy and 100% renewable free energy. Entire planet completely free of war, poverty or the thousands of diseases we are currently fighting. Every individual on Earth believing that another individual is not "wrong" to live their lives differently or believe in something other than what they believe in. Substantial minimization of organized religions into a state where religious beliefs have zero effect, influence or power over Geo-politics, laws and culture. Global population reduced by 2 thirds. Automation technologies advanced to completely eliminate the need for any occupations classified as menial labor or service industry jobs. In other words....Impossible anytime in the next 500 years and probably much farther in the future than that. While none of that is impossible in any complete sense, what socialist minded people simply cannot fathom is currently, today, capitalism is the only thing that gives them anything resembling actual freedom and liberty and it's that very freedom and liberty that must be grown and sustained to attain the endgame of Utopianism in the far flung distant future. Ironic isn't it? The very state they seek can only be accomplished via system they deplore and not in their, their children's, or their children's children's lifetime. The AOCs of the world actually believe that such a Utopia is presently attainable through legislation and an authoritarian massive government. They believe that hate, inequality, poverty, violence and war can simply be legislated away. The leaders of political systems here and abroad that are the political power based for those who believe this only care about one thing: The fact that their constituency are idiotic enough to believe it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaLon Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Sorceress 21 said: But just because I think Kate Beckinsale is one of the most beautiful women alive doesn't mean I get to take Kate out on a date tomorrow night!! See this is why we "get" you, you speak in our terms. It's like you are one of the guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gshayd Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 9:07 PM, bamashooter said: For most, misguided ideologies, for the remainder, absolute power. stupidity and no experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gshayd Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Sorceress 21 said: I wouldn't be so sure we haven't. It's very likely a Marine Assault Group is already en-route or has at least been placed on alert. Intolerance is the answer. When a group of people become "intolerant" to their inherent condition they embrace any ideology that promises them an end to that condition. This is the vicious circle of socialism, it promises everything but delivers only tyranny. Those subjected to that system blame only the individuals at the top of the socialist system, they never blame the system itself because they would be forced to admit that "Utopianism" and absolute equality thru "socialism" is a false promise. This is why Socialism still exists. Think about about it...What is actually bad about what the socialists want? Equality despite race, sex, religion, gender, social class etc., free education, free money, free healthcare, pretty much a free life without effort! Who wouldn't want that? The promise of Utopia! It's a beautiful sight, a beautiful dream and a beautiful wish. But just because I think Kate Beckinsale is one of the most beautiful women alive doesn't mean I get to take Kate out on a date tomorrow night!! Utopianism only works under the following conditions: Leaders who are absolutely above abusing their power and live their lives on equal terms as the masses. People can still individually "earn" "more" through hard work and dedication. Monetary or political stature does not determine power of voice or opinion. The system allows absolute freedom to live one's life under any capacity or belief he or she sees fit provided such life does not victimize another (Actual victimization not victimization via identity politics). 100% resource based economy and 100% renewable free energy. Entire planet completely free of war, poverty or the thousands of diseases we are currently fighting. Every individual on Earth believing that another individual is not "wrong" to live their lives differently or believe in something other than what they believe in. Substantial minimization of organized religions into a state where religious beliefs have zero effect, influence or power over Geo-politics, laws and culture. Global population reduced by 2 thirds. Automation technologies advanced to completely eliminate the need for any occupations classified as menial labor or service industry jobs. In other words....Impossible anytime in the next 500 years and probably much farther in the future than that. While none of that is impossible in any complete sense, what socialist minded people simply cannot fathom is currently, today, capitalism is the only thing that gives them anything resembling actual freedom and liberty and it's that very freedom and liberty that must be grown and sustained to attain the endgame of Utopianism in the far flung distant future. Ironic isn't it? The very state they seek can only be accomplished via system they deplore and not in their, their children's, or their children's children's lifetime. The AOCs of the world actually believe that such a Utopia is presently attainable through legislation and an authoritarian massive government. They believe that hate, inequality, poverty, violence and war can simply be legislated away. The leaders of political systems here and abroad that are the political power based for those who believe this only care about one thing: The fact that their constituency are idiotic enough to believe it. They don't make enough money yet to understand taxes and wealth redistribution under socialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw9mm Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 They will, then they will want wealth redistribution and you can bet they will be on the receiving end, , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorceress 21 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, MontanaLon said: See this is why we "get" you, you speak in our terms. It's like you are one of the guys. Just callin it like I see it! I mean, it's Kate....hell she'd turn a straight girl gay under the right circumstances...LOL 1 hour ago, sw9mm said: They will, then they will want wealth redistribution and you can bet they will be on the receiving end, , Bingo! Socialism is for the socialists, not the the people! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamashooter Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 Hopefully we can dust a few Cubans in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozarkpugs Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Saw on the news this morning a plane with tons of gold going from Venezuela to Russia . Hasn't been confirmed . Same story claims Russia has a big stake in Venezuela oil. We don't need another Nam for sure . Of course if Trump does anything it will be seen as Russian collision. Sent from my Moto E (4) using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 If I go, I’m bringing back a war bride. Maybe an angry Colombian woman is what I need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bj139 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/venezuela-maduro-russia-private-security-contractors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Venezuelan_presidential_election Must have been Russian collusion. Edited January 30, 2019 by bj139 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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