Guest Jimmyp Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Has anyone converted a Glock 21 to a Glock 20 with a barrel change, a magazine change and a recoil spring change? I am also wondering if the new slimmer grip .45 automatic pistol could be converted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock10mmman Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Has anyone converted a Glock 21 to a Glock 20 with a barrel change, a magazine change and a recoil spring change? I am also wondering if the new slimmer grip .45 automatic pistol could be converted! It cant be done. The Glock 21 breech face is too wide for the 10mm case. You can always swap a complete uppper along with a 10mm ejector and you would be set. g10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaosGlock Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I am also wondering if the new slimmer grip .45 automatic pistol could be converted! Assuming you mean the G36, even Gaston Glock would have a challenge designing a 10mm on a G36 platform as it would likely result in too high a slide velocity for reliable functioning. This was one of the problems encountered with the 40 Super conversion in the G30, at least according to the guys at Lone Wolff Distributors. But who knows, engineers have been known to do the unthinkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remat457 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) KKM does build a conversion barrel built for the 45's hood. They also recommend a new-style LCI extractor. Keep in mind that the slide from a 21 is lighter than the 20's. I asked about this on glocktalk and was told many have done it. I also received several pm's from those that tried it and never could get it to work reliably. I never bothered to try with my 1st gen 21. Edited January 3, 2007 by remat457 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimmyp Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 KKM does build a conversion barrel built for the 45's hood. They also recommend a new-style LCI extractor. Keep in mind that the slide from a 21 is lighter than the 20's. I asked about this on glocktalk and was told many have done it. I also received several pm's from those that tried it and never could get it to work reliably. I never bothered to try with my 1st gen 21. Glock is supposed to be introducing a slimmer grip .45ACP pistol at the shot show this year. My thought would be that it would be nice to be able to have this grip frame in 10mm, but who knows what the priority would be on a 10mm gun with slimmer grip. If you could buy a complete 10mm slide, spring set, barrel and if the magazine would fit, you could have two slim grip guns in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverState Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 KKM does build a conversion barrel built for the 45's hood. They also recommend a new-style LCI extractor. Keep in mind that the slide from a 21 is lighter than the 20's. I asked about this on glocktalk and was told many have done it. I also received several pm's from those that tried it and never could get it to work reliably. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remat457 Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Glock is supposed to be introducing a slimmer grip .45ACP pistol at the shot show this year. I don't know if it will happen but I would like a slimline 10mm also. The 29 doesn't quite fit me and the 20 is, well, identical to my 21...(not too mention kind of fat)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterofg3 Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I doubt you'll ever see a G36 in 10mm. My guess is there's too little slide mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postquam Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 KKM does build a conversion barrel built for the 45's hood. They also recommend a new-style LCI extractor. Keep in mind that the slide from a 21 is lighter than the 20's. I asked about this on glocktalk and was told many have done it. I also received several pm's from those that tried it and never could get it to work reliably. I never bothered to try with my 1st gen 21. I'm personally aware of several folks who tried the conversion barrel and it wouldn't extract reliably. You'll see posts from folks who claim that they use the conversion barrels and that they're 100%. I think most or all of them are lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunker Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Assuming you mean the G36, even Gaston Glock would have a challenge designing a 10mm on a G36 platform as it would likely result in too high a slide velocity for reliable functioning. This was one of the problems encountered with the 40 Super conversion in the G30, at least according to the guys at Lone Wolff Distributors. But who knows, engineers have been known to do the unthinkable. He means the GLOCK 21 SF. It's a GLOCK 21 with a smaller frame and an ambi magazine release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO Steve Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) It cant be done. The Glock 21 breech face is too wide for the 10mm case. You can always swap a complete uppper along with a 10mm ejector and you would be set. g10 I guess my 2 year old G20/21 doesn't exist then. I'm personally aware of several folks who tried the conversion barrel and it wouldn't extract reliably. You'll see posts from folks who claim that they use the conversion barrels and that they're 100%. I think most or all of them are lying. As with all aftermarket barrels, the 45-10MM conversion barrels have much tighter chambers than stock Glocks. Therefore, like 1911s, some need some tuning to run reliably. I've noted that 'breaking' the edge of the chamber will enhance chambering dramatically. In addition, some have had a few extraction problems due to the light tension the G21's LCI extractor exerts on the 10mm case rim. I have had no extraction problems in almost 6,000rds of 10mm in mine and after tweaking the chamber, it runs very reliably. BTW, I personally don't know anyone else with a G20 conversion. However, I'm Coloradoglocker and I developed it so I might know a bit more about it than just hearsay. Here are a couple of new pictures of my G20/21L configured as USPSA G20L "Limited" version, however, as Glock doesn't make a large frame longslide, this isn't USPSA legal. I just liked the look of it for my range and hunting toy. Edited January 27, 2007 by CO Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remat457 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I am personally not interested in tuning my 21 to get it to work. As far as converting the the 21SF I am told that the new ambi-mag release pistols will NOT take the old 21 mags, so I assume that 20 mags are out also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HiVel Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I guess my 2 year old G20/21 doesn't exist then. As with all aftermarket barrels, the 45-10MM conversion barrels have much tighter chambers than stock Glocks. Therefore, like 1911s, some need some tuning to run reliably. I've noted that 'breaking' the edge of the chamber will enhance chambering dramatically. In addition, some have had a few extraction problems due to the light tension the G21's LCI extractor exerts on the 10mm case rim. I have had no extraction problems in almost 6,000rds of 10mm in mine and after tweaking the chamber, it runs very reliably. BTW, I personally don't know anyone else with a G20 conversion. However, I'm Coloradoglocker and I developed it so I might know a bit more about it than just hearsay. Here are a couple of new pictures of my G20/21L configured as USPSA G20L "Limited" version, however, as Glock doesn't make a large frame longslide, this isn't USPSA legal. I just liked the look of it for my range and hunting toy. Would you list the parts you used top make that beaut-it is pretty much what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO Steve Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Would you list the parts you used top make that beaut-it is pretty much what I want. Unfortunately, the German 6" slide isn't currently available so you'll have to wait for someone to make one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock10mmman Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 CO steve, The breach face was too big I thought. Did you replace the extractor? g10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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