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Those on the list, don't forget to mention a guaranteed litigation if your home is targeted for crime.

 

Money talks.

I made that absolutly clear in my voice mail. Also I am going to look up the individuals on the judicary commetee along with both my rep and senator on this database tonight and then cross referance that with thier name in the white pages and find an address and shoot them an email tonight letting them know how easy it would be to target thier house just to get a gun.

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My letter to the state critter.

 

Dear Representatives, and Mr. Senator,

 

I am writing tonight to express deep concerns that I have due to today’s publishing of handgun permit database on a Memphis newspaper website.

 

http://www.commercialappeal.com/data/gunpermits/

 

By using the website I can enter any number of search criteria and come up with lists of individuals that have current handgun permits. With a little creativity these lists can be used to target gun owners for theft and other personal violations. Several communities in Tennessee are very rural and with just a bit creativity somebody that really wants to steal a gun could have a very specific target. For example I will use a person that I know.

 

We will call him John Doe. I was able to find him by searching the database for the zip code 37167. From there I picked out his name. (I used him specifically because I know him and was able to confirm at work that he had a permit. I could have used any name on the list.) From there I can either cross reference his zip code and name online or with a Smyrna phone book. It took me about 2 minutes to find his address and even a map to his house. Now from here, I can target his house for robbery when he is not home. Because he has a permit, he most likely owns a gun.

 

This is just an example of how this data can be used to violate an individual’s rights. As gun owners and carry permit holders we have gone through the trouble of acquiring training and paying fees (that are above the average of our surrounding states) to exercise our constitutional rights.

 

I invite you to research somebody that you know on this website. See how easy it would be for a person to find a house that most likely contains a weapon that could be used in a crime. All of the anti gun groups will talk about how important it is to get guns out of the hands of criminals and this web site puts a tool up that will help the bad guys get them.

 

I urge each of you to review and support House bills 0221, 0053 and Senate bill 0172. Help support those that follow the law.

 

Thank you for time.

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They are a part of

 

http://www.scripps.com/

 

Corporate Headquarters:

312 Walnut Street

2800 Scripps Center

Cincinnati, OH 45202

Phone: 513-977-3000

Fax: 513-977-3721

 

E-mail Contacts:

Feedback: corpcomm@scripps.com

Corporate Communications: corpcomm@scripps.com

Human Resources: askHR@scripps.com

 

 

Actually I recommend calling each of them personally (I joined this forum just to post this information, so PLEASE use it as I am on there, my wife is on there, my dad, and most everyone I know....)

 

Here they be, the powers that reside over the Commie Appeal:

 

 

Joseph Pepe

Publisher

Call Joseph at 901-529-2205

 

Steve Tomb

VP of Operations

Call Steve at 901-529-2446

 

Chris Peck

Editor

Call Chris at 901-529-2390

 

Scott Sines

Managing Editor

Call Scott at 901-529-5843

 

Eric Janssen

VP of Digital Media

Call Eric at 901-529-2480

 

And yes, I've called each of them myself.

 

Thanks for your time folks.

Edited by Nightfall

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:welcome: Hope this is not your last post. It is always good to welcome more members.

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Im on the list and mad as hell.

Call everybody you know and raise hell with them to call the critters in Nashville.

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Emails will be inbound.

 

I did play around with it and it does not include renewals or new licenses in the later half of the last year which leads me to believe this information was let out right in the middle of last Mays "New Rules" that were designed to attack the entire system by making it almost impossible to renew. That was a rule change to include a second background check for renewal as well as a second proof of citizenship which of course they told none of us about but after the fact.

 

Same person who got fired over that mess probably had a hand in this one.

 

My name is not on that list and for my small town there's 17 pages of CCW permit holders which would be a good majority of the folks who live here. I have no doubt that many people own guns here do, everyone about does, but actually taking the time to get a permit?

 

Has anyone else confirmed if their name is on the list?

 

This will help me in what tact I take with the state. Thanks. (I don't need your detail just confirmation you found yourself.)

 

TJ

 

Yep, me and the wife. This is total BS!!!

Edited by Dirty Hairy

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REply from Rep Eddie Bass

 

thank you for writing. I am the sponsor of this bill in the house and can use all the support I can get. Thanks again.........Eddie

 

I did not know that he was one of the folks that sponsored this bill.

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i dont know if you actually went into the database or not but I did. I could simply enter my zip code and it pulled up 146 folks in my zip (including me) that had carry permits. From there a crook would only have to print and ride around and look for names on mailboxes. This is jacked up.

 

 

I just went on the site and pulled up my zip code, then entered the names of all my neighbors from my neighborhood association directory. I now know every neighbor with a ccp, matched with their home address and phone number from the directory. If I can do it, so can my anyone. A simple phone call from a savvy thief would determine who is home and who isn't.

I tried to call the Commercial Appeal editor and was told he was 'in a meeting'. The secretary/ operator then told me I was a "kook" and hung up on me. I called right back... to cancel my subscription. I agree. This is a dangerous threat to me and my family.

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I just went on the site and pulled up my zip code, then entered the names of all my neighbors from my neighborhood association directory. I now know every neighbor with a ccp, matched with their home address and phone number from the directory. If I can do it, so can my anyone. A simple phone call from a savvy thief would determine who is home and who isn't.

I tried to call the Commercial Appeal editor and was told he was 'in a meeting'. The secretary/ operator then told me I was a "kook" and hung up on me. I called right back... to cancel my subscription. I agree. This is a dangerous threat to me and my family.

I am going to call the parent company today.

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This made national news tonight on NRAnews.com. They were talking about it on my way home tonight.

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Add me to the list of VERY VERY UPSET CCW holders in Tennessee.

 

Folks, even if you are out of state, we greatly need your support

in getting involved in responding to this outrage!

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A newspaper in Northern Ohio tried this a couple years ago, I believe it was the Cleveland Plain Dealer. I can't remember the exact details but the chief editor's name, photo, home address, and home telephone number where published on a pro CCW website. The editor received hundreds of protest phone calls and some home visits from unhappy CCW holders until police were posted in front of his house. The paper finally quit publishing the list.

 

Maybe something like that can be done with these jerks.

Edited by Smokin' Iron

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Latest update.

 

From TFA Member

After an email and three (3) phone calls, I spoke to Chris Peck Today.

 

He asked me if I had a HCP, I told him that I did - the then asked me if I had a gun - I told him that it was none of his business if I had a gun. He told me that he wouldn't remove my name from the list because "it was the law", I told him that it is not the law that the CA must make the list available.

 

He said that the need for my neighbors and friends to know if I have a HCP, or not, is more important than the possibility of some (in his words) "some brainiac criminal prouring over the database trying to determine who's house to rob, and most crimianls can't read." I told him that a the criminal doesn't have to be a "brainiac" and that six-year old could look up the HCP holders in a zip code.

 

He asked me if I had been broken into yet, I told him that I had not but several of my neighbors had been broken into.

 

I told him that when the CA published the names of the HCP holders in the paper several years ago, I requested in writing that the CA never publish my personal information again, and this time I have reqeusted once in writing and twice verbally and the CA has refused to remove my name from the database. He asked me if my name was published then (years ago) - I said that it had. He said (smugly) "He you been broken into since then?" - I said yes - two larcinies and one home invasion - "He said that's not a good thing is it?" I said no, with four grandkids in the house and my wife and two grandkids in the front yard - he then hung up on me.

 

From TFA Member

The release of personal information to the public by the CA is unconscionable. I'm posting a list of the editorial board and senior employees of the CA along with contact information including home and cell phone numbers where available. There are also links to personal property tax information for each of the individuals.

 

I suggest that you contact the individuals (in particular Chris Peck, the editor and Joseph Pepe, President and Publisher), especially at their home or cell numbers so they know people have that information, and tell them that since they believe personal information should be public, you will help to publicize their names, addresses, phone numbers, and tax information, all of which is public record. After all, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Then proceed to publicize it in any way you can. For example, I'm thinking of printing up a poster with Chris Peck's name, picture, and all of the personal information included here, and posting it near his Midtown home, in Overton Square, and downtown--especially near the CA building. You may find ways to do the same as well as making this as available as possible on the internet.

 

Joseph Pepe, President and publisher

3195 Wetherby Cv S

Germantown, TN 38139

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3195+Weth ... iwloc=addr

901-737-8784

901-529-2205

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Joseph_Pepe.png

 

Steve Tomb, VP of Operations

1846 Wildcreek Cv

Collierville, TN 38017

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-529-2446

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Steve_Tomb.png

 

Chris Peck, Editor

21 Belleair Dr

Memphis, TN 38104

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-276-8314

901-529-2390

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Chris_Peck.png

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Chris_Peck.png

Chris Peck's Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Peck/790909991

 

Otis Sanford, Editor/Opinion & Editorials

3396 Park Ave

Memphis, TN 38111

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-529-2447

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Otis_Sanford.png

 

Eric Janssen, VP of Digital Media

8996 Stratfield Cv

Germantown, TN 38139

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-358-7007

901-212-3597, Cell

901-529-2480

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Eric_Janssen.png

 

Scott Sines, Managing Editor

2136 Wentworth Ln

Germantown, TN 38139

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-529-5843

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Scott_Sines.png

 

Daniel Moehle, VP/Chief Financial Officer

3172 Devonshire Way

Germantown, TN 38139

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-757-5911

901-529-2210

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/ ... Moehle.png

 

Karl Wurzbach, VP of Sales and Marketing

3098 Bentwood Run Dr

Collierville, TN 38017

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-529-2640

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/ ... rzbach.png

 

Robert Jiranek, VP of New Business Development

175 Waring Rd

Memphis, TN 38117

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-251-1810

901-529-6525

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/ ... iranek.png

 

Bob Pinarski, Advertising Director

3961 Herons Landing Ln

Arlington, TN 38002

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-867-5294

901-529-2250

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/Bob_Pinarski.png

 

Denise Holman, Manager of Classified Advertising

720 Litty Ct 103

Memphis, TN 38103

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-529-2216

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.com/Communist_Appeal/ ... Holman.png

 

Paul Jewell, Marketing Director

1439 Vance Ave

Memphis, TN 38104

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... iwloc=addr

901-272-1458

901-529-2219

Property Tax Information: http://www.ampoff.co

 

Chattanooga Newspaper

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_144665.asp

 

Watson To Work For Privacy Rights For Gun Owners

posted February 12, 2009

 

Rep. Eric Watson (R-Cleveland) saidt he will be working with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle "to protect the Second Amendment rights of Tennesseans by ensuring that gun owners have certain rights to privacy."

 

His announcement comes on the heels of the publication of every handgun carry permit holder in the state on the Memphis Commercial Appeal's website. In 2007, the Nashville-based Tennessean published the list as well, raising the concern of Second Amendment advocates.

 

"As a former law enforcement officer, I have seen the kind of violence that this knowledge can perpetuate," said Rep. Watson. "No one wins when a newspaper publishes the names of handgun carry permit holders. This action puts the permit holders at risk to have their weapons stolen, and it especially puts non-gun owners at risk by giving criminals a list of easy targets who are not armed."

 

Current law provides that the list is public record, but some lawmakers are working to change the law. Rep. Watson pledged to work with his fellow lawmakers on the issue, "to protect gun owners and non-gun owners alike."

 

He said, "It was irresponsible of the Commercial Appeal to publish the list, and I see nothing positive coming from it. I will work with and support efforts to stop things like this from happening this year in the General Assembly."

 

TFA Member

They are getting hammered on many other gun related web sites and the names and addresses of the staff are all over the internet.

 

I have to give them "left handed credit" for holding the line and not pulling it by now.

I personally spoke to the editor early on and before the hammering really started. He said it was published as an information sharing tool to allow any business that may feel people with handguns could use their services like insurance companies and or alarm companies. I was very nice during my conversation to try to set a civil stage and convince him they are off base by doing this. I spoke of all the common problems it could cause but he held his ground. I could see I was getting nowhere so I told him to honker down because this is just the beginning of what is to come. I think by now he knows what I meant.

 

The excuse he gave me for posting the list is just one of many that he has used on his callers. It probably was one of the weakest. There are a lot of calls going out, some of which are not exactly made at prime working or waking hours from what I have read.

 

The actual reason, I feel, is because of the recent shooting in the mall parking lot and his paper just has to do a fine public service.

 

And last but not least The commercial Appeals response to the pressure being put on them.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... un-owners/

 

NASHVILLE -- Tennessee legislators have filed a rash of new bills to allow guns in state and local parks, restaurants serving alcohol and even schools and also limiting public access to lists of gun-carry permit holders.

 

Senate Majority Leader Mark Norris, R-Collierville, who is sponsoring two of the gun bills, said Thursday he believes the measures stand a much better chance of passing this year as a result of the new GOP majority in the legislature.

 

Supported by the Tennessee Firearms Association and the National Rifle Association, lawmakers have tried for years to pass bills allowing gun-carry permit holders to take their guns into places serving alcohol as long as they are not drinking themselves, but the legislation was killed in House subcommittees controlled by Democrats.

 

This year, with the state House reorganized under a nominal GOP majority, the volume of bills loosening restrictions on where permit-holders may take guns has sharply increased. So has the scope of places the bills propose to allow the guns, including state and local public parks, colleges and universities and potentially into high schools.

 

There is also a renewed push this year on bills to make confidential the identities of gun-carry permit holders at the state Department of Safety, the licensing agency, and to make it a crime for anyone, including media organizations, to publish identities of anyone with the permits. Currently, applications bear a disclaimer that information submitted is subject to the state public records law.

 

As of Thursday afternoon, 18 bills were filed to loosen restrictions on where guns may be taken, four were filed to make the information confidential and two others were filed to exempt from criminal prosecution people who shoot others in the protection of their property.

 

The confidentiality bills are sparked in part by a campaign by gun organizations and permit-holders against The Commercial Appeal's publication on its Web site of a searchable database of Tennessee gun-carry permit holders and by news reports that identified the Cordova man charged this week with the shooting death of another man as a gun-carry permit holder.

 

Norris said the newspaper's publication of the database "has added to the concern by a number of people who fear for their safety -- either those who have permits and may be identified as having weapons in their homes, and those who by exclusion are not identified and now feel susceptible to those who may look to see who are not permitted."

 

"And I share those concerns."

 

The newspaper and lawmakers have been flooded with calls and e-mails demanding the database be removed on the grounds that it is an invasion of privacy, opens the possibility of identity theft and lets criminals see who has guns and who doesn't.

 

Gun owner David Waldrip of Germantown, an information technology specialist, said it comes down to personal privacy and safety.

 

"All manner of things are public information, but people find it very disconcerting that they have gone through stringent requirements set forth by the state in order to get a carry permit, and their decision to do so is made public," Waldrip said. "Along with that, the matter of personal safety is entered into the equation."

 

The database had been posted online for two months without controversy prior to the Cordova shooting.

 

Chris Peck, editor of The Commercial Appeal, said Thursday the newspaper continues "to see value in posting the concealed weapon permit list -- and here's why: The news event involving a shooting at Trinity Commons over a dispute over parking has made the matter of who in our community is carrying concealed weapons of interest."

 

He said the newspaper has removed birth dates and street names of permit holders and the database now includes only names, year of birth, city, state, ZIP code and permit issue and expiration dates.

 

"The level of uninformed response has been disappointing," Peck said. "It really defies logic that people say this makes their homes vulnerable to targeting by gun thieves, because first of all, most houses in our community have guns in them that don't require any registration and thus are not on a public database, and most people in our community don't have gun-carry permits.

 

"You have to ask whether somebody who wants a gun would target someone who has a gun and is trained to use it.''

 

The intersection of First and Second Amendment rights is an emerging issue, with databases and the movement of news organizations to Web sites.

 

"I think databases and aggregation of information have raised new issues for free speech advocates to consider," said Gene Policinski, executive director of the Freedom Forum First Amendment Center in Nashville. "The ability to tie names, personal information, locations of homes is something that wasn't so easily accomplished in the past."

 

Kelly McBride, ethics group leader at the Poynter Institute in Florida, a media studies organization, said the fact that the database was not controversial until last week's shooting "suggests there are people who found value in it and didn't object.

 

"Lets say I'm a parent and I want to know if my kid is going to be riding in a car with somebody who has a concealed gun carry permit. That would be important for me."

 

Link were also posted for the FACEBOOK pages for Chris Pecks wife, son, and daughter. I have removed them for this post as I do not believe it is his families fault that their father is a dumbass. I am sure that they love him any way.

 

And to clearify some crap in thier rebutal

 

places the bills propose to allow the guns, including state and local public parks, colleges and universities and potentially into high schools

 

Public parks -- Consistant with currnent federal law as we all know.

colleges and universities -- As we all know collages and universities may span several acres with multiple plublic streets and some medical schools even have hospitital emergency rooms. Want to get a felony for having you gun in your holster when the ambulance brings you in barley alive?

high schools -- No such attempt has been made other than to have you gun in your car while conducting buisness on teh grounds. Buisness like picking up your kids or dropping off at a book drive, or even giving blood during a blood drive. There is no attempt bing made to carry in the school.

 

"Lets say I'm a parent and I want to know if my kid is going to be riding in a car with somebody who has a concealed gun carry permit. That would be important for me. "
If it is that importatant ASK THEM if not you probally dont know them well enough to let them drive your kid around.

 

 

 

Thanks for all the help for the folks on this forum. If you live in alaska let me know I can send you a phone card if you will call these creeps every night right before you go to bed. :thumb:

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My name is on there too. I will be sending an email and follow up tomorrow. I go to church with my state rep. He will definitely hear from me on Sunday.

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