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I know I went slinking off with my tail between my legs last night, but I recevied an email this morning I knew I had to share...so here it is:

 

 

>> Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the

>> Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush

>> administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage

>> (HR 1022, 110th

>> Congress)

>> It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to

>> introduce shortly.

>>

>> I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of

>> opportunity, It's horrific. They're going after the courts,

>> regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out

>> effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of

>> criminals.

>>

>> Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is

>> critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure,

>> due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right

>> to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

>>

>> The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be

>> worse):

>>

>> Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

>>

>> M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite

>> M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74,

>> ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR;

>> AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,

>> Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91,

>> HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

>> Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95

>> or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or

>> Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

>>

>> Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

>>

>> Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9,

>> TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

>>

>> Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

>> Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

>> Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

>>

>> A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

>>

>> (i) a folding or telescoping stock,

>> (ii) a threaded barrel,

>> (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a

>> grip, see below),

>> (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

>>

>> Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more

>> than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

>>

>> A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable

>> magazine, and has:

>>

>> (i) a second pistol grip,

>> (ii) a threaded barrel,

>> (iii) a barrel shroud or

>> (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and

>> (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more

>> than 10 rounds.

>>

>> A semiautomatic shotgun with:

>> (i) a folding or telescoping stock,

>> (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),

>> (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine

>> capacity of more than 5

>> rounds, and

>> (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

>>

>> Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion

>> kits.

>>

>> Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

>>

>> Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any

>> "semiautomaticrifle or shotgun originally designed for military or

>> law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a

>> firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as

>> determined by the Attorney General."

>>

>> Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation

>> hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting

>> the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your

>> own home.

>>

>> In making this determination, the bill says, "thereshall be a

>> rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United

>> States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not

>> particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not

>> be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes

>> solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event."

>>

>> In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal

>> officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

>>

>> The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't

>> have a sporting purpose just because

>>

>> it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what?

>> And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no

>> constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic

>> enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of

>> disarming the innocent.

>>

>> Respectfully submitted,

>>

>> Alan Korwin,

>>

>> Author Gun Laws of America

>> http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

>>

>> Forward or send to every gun owner you know.....

>>

>>

>>

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>> In making this determination, the bill says, "thereshall be a

>> rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United

>> States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not

>> particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not

>> be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes

>> solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting even

 

Even the fact someone wrote this ought to scare the hell out of every American. This was exactly the reason why the founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment.

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>> In making this determination, the bill says, "thereshall be a

>> rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United

>> States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not

>> particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not

>> be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes

>> solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting even

So lets look at this? If we look at the Army Marksmenship Unit. They have bought bolt action rifles (not to mention every service uses bolt action rifles for snipers) AMU also has procured o/u shot guns for trap and skeet (they also had members on the olympic team) AMU has .22 LR single shot pistols that compete in olympic competion. Army/USMC has pump shotguns for forced entry in hostile enviroment. Ohh lets not forget all of the revolvers that military AVN used between NAM and the fielding of the Beretta. These were basic 6 shot S&W. Lets see has this bill left out any firearm in the united states? OHHH OHHH I know the military also uses air rifles in competition.

 

This my sound like a strech but the devil is in the details. if this passes you will be able to get a CCW for you daisy red rider because since this country has started bewteen the military and LEO we have used every other type of fire arm.

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well, that just ruined my day. it's depressing to see people out there who are so willing to punish the majority for the crimes of a few. but, as usual, it's a really good thing i don't own anything like what's listed. :tf:

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I just dont understand why they think they can pull this sh**. I hope that there are enough level headed individuals out there (in government and the general population) that can tell these a-holes to take a hike.

I'm a law abiding citizen that served active duty time, serving in the Air Guard right now, and carrently in the process of working for the local sheriffs dept where I live. There is no reason, past or present that shows im incapable of responsibly owning a firearm. Those !*@% *%#@ *$ &@!*$ idiots!!

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HR 1022 is an (relatively) old bill. I figured Obama would have already signed it. I haven't heard much from the talk radio guys about gun control. Glenn Beck brought something up about it on his show on Fox but talked about hunting mainly. He did thrown self defense in there once. I think we should send him some email. He's proud of saying he's an NRA life member.

 

 

 

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sounds like I have a list of what I need to sell at the next gun show...

so I can stay legal.

 

In all likelihood you will be able to keep what you have if it gets banned. They will give you 90 days or so to register your "banned" guns. I'm guessing they will ban the ar15 and all variants, and hoping to hell there is a grandfather clause

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Are they trying to ban these guns to keep violence down...??? Or do they just think there is no use for guns likes these in the civilian world... only military and law enforcement needs them. What do I have to do with the violent crimes where a gun is used? If they are worried about these guns getting into the wrong hands, maybe they need to do a better job of controling that in other ways. I do know that as soon as I get my AR, I will be purchasing a gunsafe. I already own 4 other guns (shotgun, .270, 22LR, and a .40 cal) so its time to put them somewhere safe in the event of a break in while I'm not home. And it will be bolted to the floor as well. I wil prolly keep my 40 readily accessible, but the rest will be locked up.

 

They need to focus on them getting into the wrong hands, not just trying to take them away from everyone.

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Attempting to disarm the public what does this clearly spell out??

 

Anyone, Anyone, Anyone

 

Tyranny, simple and true.

I dont want to know what the rest of the story is, I dont think I could take it...

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>> Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

>>

>> Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any

>> "semiautomaticrifle or shotgun originally designed for military or

>> law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a

>> firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as

>> determined by the Attorney General."

 

 

That would really suck.

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